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Old March 3rd, 2008, 06:59 AM

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Default Re: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.21

???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CARRION WOODS AS A 0-LEVEL SPELL???!!!
What kind of madness is THAT?
And, damnit, Wild Hunt still a 5-level... A spell do decimate expensive mage-priests, or AT LEAST stalemate the enemy forcing him to assign best troops as bodyguards (and even that wont help most of the time) - as a FIFTH LEVEL?
I've used it against Mictlan, I had it used against me as Tien Chi, heck, its quite powerful for a 9th level spell.

Oh my God, Carrion Woods as a 0-level spell.... what have I signed myself for!...

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Old March 3rd, 2008, 07:45 AM

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Default Re: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.21

Uh,.. I think you're hugely overrating wild hunt and carrion woods there. They kinda suck. Wild Hunt does very little to the overall game to help you and pisses people off so they attack you, for instance.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 08:52 AM

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Tell that to mictlan and marverni, who were losing their expensive druids and capitol-only priests of whatever (sometimes with magic boosters for forging or sanguine rods for hunting) each turn to my Wild Hunt. Did it suck? For them, probably. Mictlan lost without even giving me a single fight - with Wild hunt, constant Earth attacks and ghost raiders I denied him blood hunting.
As for carrion woods, it DOUBLES Pangaea's already endless hordes of chaff, making them even more capable of dealing with thugs and armored guys.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 11:46 AM

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Default Re: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.21

You could have inflicted far more damage using the gems/global slot/mage time/research elsewhere, is my feeling. If I had wild hunt cast against me I'd mostly ignore it, maybe toss some bodyguards on some high loss commanders.

I'm not very experienced with Carrion Woods but to me it seems like a weaker version of the non national spell. Haunted Woods is it?
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 03:40 PM

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I could?
Well, would you ignore the fact 2-3 of your 400-gold mages die each turn? Seems to be a sure way to sound defeat if you ask me. And I needed that research anyway, for ghost raiders. Now for the gems invested, you tell me what would be a better investment, seeing how this spell was killing several expensive mages each turn.
Carrion woods, AFAIK, turn each killed maenad into a manikin with sleep wines. One of my friends was playing against a Pangaea with this enchantment up - maenads were killing his Tartarians. Is that not good enough? Now imagine that on turn 10, when you have no Tartarians.
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Aren't you confusing Carrion Woods with Haunted Forest?
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Default Re: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.21

Carrion Woods creates the nation-spesific animal-manikin. It turns Pangaea into Ermor-lite, with dominion transforming population into freespawn.
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