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Old April 2nd, 2008, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: Ideas for 1001 Arabian Nights-themed nations

I realize this is somewhat tangental, however I have an Achaemenid Persian nation (330 BC) written out, and it's on the schedule/list to be completed. It would be created jointly with a Macedon nation (with the idea of focusing on 1on1 SP/MP duels).
Currently planned after 3 other mods (though one is almost finished and ready for release).
Which means at least 3 (more likely 6) months away.
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 07:46 AM

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Ah yes, temperature scales. Heat 1 sounds sufficient, there's not really anything very magical about the population (base MR 10) so more might sound like a little much.

Camel units could have Need Not Eat, maybe even Supply Bonus 1. And thinking of them... there should probably be medium camel cavalry just for the thematic aspect, and to add something fantastical. Perhaps even make them sacred? Battle camels that spit poison! lol

Yeah and gotta have the assassins, I had at least two-three types in there including the courtesan. She has a poison knife, of course. But I also liked my Court Eunuch with strangulation and maybe Instill Uprising on him.

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"The Eunuch has grown up in the confines of the courts of the shieks and princes. Rising in rank through poison, assassination, and intrigue, they become much larger than normal men through their appetites, both for food and the cruel and unsavory practices of the courts. Their great size and bulbous bodies belie their surprising strength and speed, and they are quite fleet of foot. Survivalists by nature, they care only for themselves and never lead troops."

Gold 180? ---------- Resources 3
Hp 19 (Size 3) ----- Strength 15
Protection 3? (Robes and Leather Cap) ----- Attack 11
Morale 13 ---------- Defense 10
Magic Resistance 12 ----- Precision 10
Encumbrance 3 ---- Move 2/12
Leadership 0

Weapons: Strangulation - Strength, Defense, Reach all 0, Attack 1. Always attacks head, OR Armor Piercing. Once it hits it will always hit every round thereafter. Equipping a weapon removes this ability.
Armor: Robes, Leather Cap

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I don't think Blood would be thematic, they weren't into sacrifices to the best of my knowledge. I'm not sure heat resistance is so appropriate either, or reduce it to 25. Certainly make them Heat 1 or 2.

I think they should have some decently armoured troops. Some pretty average infantry with spears and shields and some cavalry with lance and shields, both with armour no better than chainmail. Archers on both foot and horseback should have composite bows. They could also have militia-quality ghazi troops, border raiders with light armour and axes or clubs.

They'd arrive in MA, in LA they could be more like the Turks, mostly similar but with heavier armour, and less Heat.
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National summons are easy; you have Marids, Ifrit, Shaitan, Ghuls, and Jann.

I was thinking they should have fire and earth with minors in air and death. Hidden in Sand should be something they should be able cast out of the box or with randoms.

One big problem is that horse archers are awful in Dominions 3. Even with composite bows they will be too expensive for what they do, and there's no Parthian Shot built into the game. Might be better to go the LA C'tis route and have some incredible capital only swordsmen, but just average recruit everywhere units.

It's important to separate out the eras. The Arabian Nights theme seems like it would be EA. Would 11-13th century saracen warriors and assassins be MA? After the fall of Alamut and the arrival of Marco Polo, the Mongols have a heavy influence and the "Arabian Nights" theme doesn't really apply. If that's LA, it would be largely divergent nation.
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Is it just me or is half of the stuff you all are mention basically abysia? I always felt that they were loosely based on the middle east. Personally I would prefer a LA turkish nation than a MA arab one, or maybe one of each hmmmm. I do not think they are "fantasy" enough to be in EA personally. They didnt emerge into the world until "MA" anyhow.
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the Whirling Dervish is actually a priest, not a warrior. A priest-mage would be more appropriate for this Persian archetype; probably with air, earth, astral, and death magic paths. The 'whirling' adjective is a reference to the spiritual dance they perform.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dervish
http://www.dankphotos.com/whirling/
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Very interesting and a good point Omni, but let's not forget the mythology of Magic: The Gathering, either. Whirling Dervish or any unit doesn't necessarily have to be their historical equivalent. It's often more fun to mix it up and take some artistic liberties!

In my opinion, the name Whirling Dervish deserves some play as a badass melee unit.
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I don't think Blood would be thematic, they weren't into sacrifices to the best of my knowledge. I'm not sure heat resistance is so appropriate either, or reduce it to 25. Certainly make them Heat 1 or 2.
Completely agree. I was going to post this just now.
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