I was looking at Patala, and it seems to have a

[lch]

Endoperez said:
Sombre is making fun of an old discussion where some people argued that the monkey nations were useless, basing their whole argument into few details and refusing to discuss opposing arguments.

I was jokingly referring to the same, as was calmon. Seriously, we need something like argumentum ad Hitlerum / Godwin's Law for (monkey) PD on these boards.