Suggestion for new Oceana units

[Cor2]

oooh a narwhale I like those... good idea

[Endoperez]

Narwhal that become unicorns when they land?


The horns don't work like drills, though. They're more like lances or something.

[HoneyBadger]

Jellyfish would be great-This reminds me of Man-O-Wars. Those things are just terrifying, even if they aren't really jellyfish.

And how about manta rays? They did for poor Steve Irwin, afterall. There's a vampiric version of them in D&D too, but the name is more or less unpronounceable, so maybe they could come in regular and undead varieties. Maybe they could be ocean flyers?

I've been wanting to mod in a nation that used undead Aboleths, huge size 6 trampling sea urchins, and giant immobile cone snail that shoot a poisoned harpoon at it's enemies, functioning like an underwater ballista, but so far haven't had the chance. Maybe if I can find my notes, I'll do a write up for it, like Partha. It's basically an underwater MA Aboleth nation that's based on the Mamluk Egyptian (pre 7th cruisade, 1249 ad.) Sultanate.

[Wrana]

To HoneyBadger:
Surely bring it out! Sea urchins and snails particularly. And jellyfish should be present, certainly. English name slipped me earlier, but they and coralls should make a long way toward making Oceania feared! Also, while jellyfish would probably remain aquatic only, coralls can be amphibious... Hey, there IS a possibility of making something like the said Man-o-War which is floating in the air, baloon-like. It can be filled with something like hydrogene or methane and so explode when dying.
Manta Rays I think not particularly impressive (they surely ARE, from cosmetic point of view, but that's it). Except this could allow to include electrical one... however, there are other electricity-producing fishes.
" Xietor: Swamps are loaded with gators, Oceans are not inudated with crocs."
While I agree that for C'tis, etc. not having gators is a glaring oversight there ARE at least couple of species of ocean-going crocs. The Indian gavial (iir spelling c) isn't very impressive with its dolphin-style beak, but Pacific one is the biggest croc on Earth, reaching up to 10 meters!
To Baalz: Orcas having bad time against armored troops?! You are joking! These guys have up to 6-10 meters length iirc and VERY impressive teeth! Raiding they would perform admirably, too, though. Maybe spermacete whale of Moby Dick kind could be added if you want something STILL more impressive. I don't remember whether it's possible to include supersonic attack for him, but what the hell...

[Reverend Zombie]

Wrana said:

While I agree that for C'tis, etc. not having gators is a glaring oversight there ARE at least couple of species of ocean-going crocs. The Indian gavial (iir spelling c) isn't very impressive with its dolphin-style beak, but Pacific one is the biggest croc on Earth, reaching up to 10 meters!

C'tis should have crocs, not gators.

[HoneyBadger]

Mantas not impressive? As I mentioned, one of them killed the man who used to *toy with crocodiles!* on national television! Not to mention, snakes with venom so very deadly that a single drop can kill you before your next heartbeat. They're close relatives of sharks, and while they may not be the most aggressive animals in the world, they obviously aren't much into cuddling, or showbusiness. And if you've ever read 'The Black Pearl', you'll note their nickname, "El Diablo".

[Wrana]

Snakes are completely other question, though I agree that sea ones have more potent venom than land-dwelling ones. But let's not digress.
No, I didn't read "The Black Pearl". Nor probably intend to. And I'm not much impressed with anything someone might do on national TV. Expecially at our age of sofisticated montaging. And that setting aside the fact that most crocodiles aren't very agressive either - they simply don't need as much to eat as mammal carnivores, being cold-blooded as they are. (Actually, term "agression" is somewhat misplaced here, but that will also lead us far to the side...) And in showbusiness mantas are actually well established afaik - they are quite the looks with their mode of movement, after all. But this doesn't make them dangerous for those who leave them alone (this will include not to step of them! ). They are slow-moving, for one thing, and their teeth are quite unsuitable for large prey. As for close relations - well, donkey is quite close relative of rhinoceros, and this doesn't make him killer!

[HoneyBadger]

All of that may or may not have some sort of basis in fact, Wrana, but absolutely none of it matters, seeing as how the manta would only be serving the purpose of inspiration.

And The Black Pearl was a very good book, especially considering it was written for young adults 40 years ago.

[Kristoffer O]

You mean manatee I suppose

[quantum_mechani]

Kristoffer O said:
You mean manatee I suppose

I love manatees! .... don't they look suspiciously like aquatic bog beasts?