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Old December 31st, 2011, 01:22 AM
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Default Re: M734 Multi-Option Fuze

Saw VT demonstrated at RA Larkhill open day as a cadet back in the 70s.

It was (deliberately) fired over a bit of the landscape where the topsoil had been removed. Since Salisbury Plain is chalky (it's a pig to dig in there), it was quite impressive watching the white stuff go puff...

Yes, against unprotected troops or trenches with no overhead cover, very nasty. Made me REALLY appreciate why stage 2 top cover (18 inches of soil or sandbag on top of some wood) cover AFAIR was considered so absolutely necessary when we did digging-in exercises.

SP does not differentiate between stage 1 open topped entrenchments and stage 2 (L-shaped covered shelter bay) and further (bunkering up, basically)stages.


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Old December 31st, 2011, 02:54 AM
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Had to "dumb this down a little" so I found this article which I hope will help others on the various types of mortar fuzes out there, some background, how they work, what applications they're designed for and where the tech is going (Some already here now, article was written in 2004.). If you click on the authors name you'll find other articles he's written and a further search revealed he's also written many books on military avaition matters as well. Free Library is not a "WIKI" type site.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Fuzes+...s.-a0122105138
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ef2.htm#fm7_10


This second ref. was most helpful in a discussion IMP started on dare I say it...maybe in a different way "Charlie Mike". Not to worry not going there again!?! Be careful Global Security doesn't want to be free anymore so you'll only get 7 visits per month free now otherwise it's 9.95 per, the dirty rotten...basses, and make sure you descale them good before cooking!?! Interesting research project all this though.

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Last of fundamentals I promise, but goes beyond that as well. This will be most useful for newer and maybe not so new players as I think the game does a decent job with arty as a whole generally which is why this might be again useful for players especially the tables shown. This is taken from the USA FM 23-91 Chapter 2 Fundamentals of Mortar Gunnery.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ch2.htm#tab2-3
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Just saw your post as mine went up; check the following two websites I use for other purposes, but they both have an extensive company listing that might help all in the heart of this matter never mind...here
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/firms.php
http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/ammunition/
http://www.army-technology.com/contr...indexAtoZ.html

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Alright first the disclaimer; I like arty as demonstrated in IMP's (Johns) thread on the topic where I hopefully showed with the military documents I submitted arty in the game is not quite there but, I feel effective enough to counter the argument it was too effective in the game. Not going to rehash that again go back and read it for yourselves. But I bring it up to say there might be useful info in the thread for this topic and an earlier thread of the same topic that proceeded IMP'S by about three years as I recall. I know the field manuals I submitted got into the effectiveness of arty on various target protected and unprotected positions. The results are deadly, but see for yourself it's all there. Field Manuals (FM) ARE CALLED THAT FOR A REASON, they represent the results of extensive testing involving hundreds to thousands of rounds expended and results on post battle investigative analysis for any country. Those posts included conventional round comparisons as well another reason I brought this up. To the topic fuze of this thread this is from the people that make it happen, it is in PDF format, I invite you to look it all over but pgs. 3-6 & 11 are the most relevant:
http://proceedings.ndia.org/5560/Wed...II-B/Mohan.pdf

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From that CM thread; Of note look to tables C2 and C3, for more detail like I did then just read it. Note the coverage areas in meters on table C3. SOMETIMES SOMETHING "OLD" CAN BE SOMETHING "NEW" AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT BY A COUPLE OF OTHERS IN THE PAST. Oh yes this is from USA FM 6-40 Appendix C. Second thought see all tables in article are targets used for testing.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita.../6-40/Appc.htm

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From that CM thread; Of note look to tables C2 and C3, for more detail like I did then just read it. Note the coverage areas in meters on table C3. SOMETIMES SOMETHING "OLD" CAN BE SOMETHING "NEW" AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT BY A COUPLE OF OTHERS IN THE PAST. Oh yes this is from USA FM 6-40 Appendix C. Second thought see all tables in article are targets used for testing.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita.../6-40/Appc.htm
Table C-4 was very informative as well.
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Noticed that 50 meter radius I see, was surprised to see how the 105mm performed, but then if you really want to hurt someone badly a .22 cal will do the job just as well as anything by comparison as well. I still like my 155mm arty though.

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