obat53 Switzerland

[Pats]

There are ore were three classes of the Swiss AA guns (called Flab = Fliegerabwehr), light, medium and heavy (=sch).

The haevy flak after WWII was the 7.5 cm Flab (Unit 758) which could do with a new LBM (24964 attached) and with Icon 61.
Also name it 7.5cm Sch Flab
This heavy AA was often used fortified (unit 757) but with end date 12/68

Later the 7.5cm Sch Flab was replaced by area SAMs Bloodhound and then Rapier wich is still in service under the heavy AA
(no change here as I cheked those earlier).

The medium flak is covered by the 34mm Flab 38 (unit 085) wich ended not before 12/65. I think Icon 1981 fits better too.
(Radio code might be better of with 30 too)
It even needs a clon that last from 1/63 until 12/89 (!) but with weapon 007 in slot 2
Units 086 - 089 and 755 are the newer medium flak (35mm KDB) They seem to be ok.


Now with the light flak it seems to need the biggest adjustment.
An other typically fortified flak was the 20mm Flab 54/60 wich needs to be created.
It has two 20mm AA-Guns (which weapon isn't existing yet) and is mounted on a concrete socket.
It could be cloned from unit 757 but needs lots of adjustments (mod original 5.0 obat53 is attached).

The three existing 20mm flak in the obat might be expended to 16 units (!)
Unit 082 20mm Flab 44 thats actually not to bad, but it must be 20mm Flab 43 (also the weapon 068 is 20mm AA-Gun 43), end date 12/57.
Unit 083 20mm Flab 57 must be the 20mm flab 43/57, end date 12/69, maybe Icon 411
Unit 084 20mm Flab 54 end date 12/69
That leaves us with 13 new units, wich are mainly modifications (clones) from unit 083 and 084.

new unit 20mm Flab 38 from 1/46 - 12/65 with new weaopon 20mm AA-Gun 38 Weapon 5 in slot 2, Range finder and Fire control 3
new unit 20mm Flab 38 from 1/63 - 12/72 with new weaopon 20mm AA-Gun 38 Weapon 7 in slot 2, Range finder and Fire control 3
the radio should be 41 or 31 (mod original 5.0 obat53 is attached).

new unit 20mm Flab 43/50 earlier variant (clone) of unit 083. Dating from 1/46 - 12/59, Radio 41, Range finder 3

new unit 20mm Flab 54 clone of unit 084 Dating from 1/63 - 12/74, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 54 clone of unit 084 Dating from 1/70 - 12/74, Fire control 6, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 54 clone of unit 084 Dating from 1/74 - 12/97, Fire control 7, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 54 clone of unit 084 Dating from 1/75 - 12/97, Fire control 8, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 54 clone of unit 084 Dating from 1/77 - 12/97, Fire control 8, vision 10, weapon 007 in slot 2

new unit 20mm Flab 43/57 clone of unit 083 Dating from 1/63 - 12/74, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 43/57 clone of unit 083 Dating from 1/70 - 12/74, Fire control 6, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 43/57 clone of unit 083 Dating from 1/74 - 12/83, Fire control 7, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 43/57 clone of unit 083 Dating from 1/75 - 12/87, Fire control 8, weapon 007 in slot 2
new unit 20mm Flab 43/57 clone of unit 083 Dating from 1/77 - 12/87, Fire control 8, vision 10, weapon 007 in slot 2

and other new interesting units would be
7.5mm Doppel Mg (double Mg) with 7.5mm (2) AAMG which needs to be added to the weapon list.
One dating from 1/46 until 12/65 and the other from 1/63 until 12/72 (change the second weapon from 5 to 7), Icon 634?

the 20mm SP flak (unit 043 - 20mm AA dodge) from the austrian obat46 could be added as well (1/61 - 12/67)

I also found some pictres but nothing realy usable in the game due copyright isues or low quality.
I've put some in as attachemnt anyway for some impressions.

source: http://www.amicale-dca.ch/kalter_krieg.htm

[DRG]

Pats, has this OOB been altered ONLY with these changes you noted and nothing else ?

Don

[Pats]

Yes I used the default obat to add those artillery and flak and changed the existing (Arty and AA). But nothing before that (the mortars for example). But to be on the save side you might just copy/paste the ones out you'd like to.
Same with the weapons.

The formations though need to be checked!

(I did change a lot more in my "reordered" version but nothing "important", mainly names and radio codes...)

[Pats]

Modified oob (Switzerland).

enjoy


File includes two LBM's (Pictures) for the attached oob.
Only recomended for expirienced users


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"This mod contains highly altered or additional files that may or will cause interference with the master game files and it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that this mod be installed and played ONLY in a separate copy of the game and NOT run from the master game"

[DRG]

Pats, is this modified from the official game OOB or your re-organized one ?

Don

[Pats]

Originally Posted by DRG

Pats, is this modified from the official game OOB or your re-organized one ?

Don

"highly altered" means in this case also re-organized

[cbreedon]

Pats

I enjoy your OOB's and play the Swiss a lot. Your renaming, etc brings authenticity to it.

Thanks

[Pats]

v5.5 - obat53

Unit 801 has no Weapon 1 should be No 112
Unit 802 has wrong Weapon 1 should be No 110

Some Weapon mix ups for units 775-792 deatails later when I checked.

[Pats]

v5.5 - obat53

Unit 776 Weapon 1 should be 79
Unit 779 Weapon 1 should be 69
Units 785,786,787,788,789 should have Weapon 1 No 69 (tripple 20mm)

[Pats]

Is it possible that the Picture LBM 12041 has been altered?

It is more likely the M109A7 or Paladin Unit 042 in obat12 (PzHb88 in obat53) then M109A1 or A2 Units 040 + 041 in obat12 (PzHb74+79 in obat53), what it used to be (at least in the swiss an us OOB).

A Good picture for all A1 and A2 variants would be LBM 8013 (Unit40 obat12) I think. Or the old LBM 12041 ...

The difference you can recocnize at the back of the tower (The Icon shows that nicely).