KingMaker - let the Ascension War commence!

[atul]

Bandar Log, it seems, has to bear the brunt of coming winter. Our capitol's temperature has dropped to average temperatures! You must understand how embarrassing this is to the nation of pantless Apes accustomed to warmer climates.

Other than that, our relations are warm and comfy and we don't understand the hurry of others to burn and pillage. They must be compensating their forthcoming impotence in advance or something.

[JimMorrison]

atul said:
Bandar Log, it seems, has to bear the brunt of coming winter. Our capitol's temperature has dropped to average temperatures! You must understand how embarrassing this is to the nation of pantless Apes accustomed to warmer climates.



Yeah, but you're nice and hairy. Or are you worried about shrinkage? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif

I'm sad I missed all of the hullabaloo..... I take personal offense to the referencing of fascist military dictatorships violently oppressing their people.


In other news, the weather in Gath is..... well, violently oppressive. The people fear their cruel masters, and the possibility that they will return to their flesh feasting ways. I try to guide them, so that one day they will be once again comfortable having public competitions of wit and strategy. Hopefully when this goal is achieved, they will be so grateful to have such wonders, that they will remain respectful of all those responsible for the gift, and act responsibly so as to honor the other competitors, rather than only thinking of themselves before, during, or after the game.

It is a simple dream I have for my people. Is it so wrong that I consider it so noble an aspiration?

[Xietor]

I just turned off quickhost to guarantee that the full 24 hours elapses between turns. Quickhost will be turned back on when we go to 48 houra at turn 18.

[Hadrian_II]

Xietor said:
I just turned off quickhost to guarantee that the full 24 hours elapses between turns. Quickhost will be turned back on when we go to 48 houra at turn 18.



huh?? if quickhost is set to 24h, the full 24 hours will elapse so i dont see why the next turn has to be delayed.

EDIT: ok, i somehow read that the turn would be delayed. and not just quickhost disabled.

btw. with 60 players, there will anyway someone stale every turn and the change would not have been necessary.

[Tichy]

I think it's so that the time of day host occurs is consistent, instead of creeping backwards if players complete the turn before 24h. I'm in favor of it. I like knowing when, exactly, host will occur, barring technical problems.

[Aezeal]

No quickhost makes the game host sooner if all players have played their turn.
Quickhost 24 hours means it will host when
a. all player have played their turn OR
b. 24 hours have passed

[Hadrian_II]

i just did read xietors post wrong and thougt he would delay the turn, what left me puzzled. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Xietor]

It was requested by a player who wants to do his turn early, but does not want to run the risk, however slight, that the turn will host sooner than 24 hours.

[Zeldor]

But that makes no sense? He still has 24 hours to do the turn...

[Tichy]

If he mails in the turn and *then* wants to make changes to it, he runs the risk of the turn hosting prior to the full 24h, which it will do if everyone else submits theirs, because it sees his turn has been submitted.

[Zeldor]

A bit too early to play with fast turns and later good, microd ones...

[DonCorazon]

What's up with the "inexplicable increase in wealth message". I assume everyone got that.

[Xietor]

I do not think poor Pythium cheated. After all Dr P has his capital under siege. Most likely Pythium sympathizers sent him gold. That message is typically wrong.

Lastly, I think it would be risky to try anything "funny" on Llamaserver, because llamabeast could, if prompted, peek at your turn file.

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[Bananadine]

Llamas have scrying!

[Lingchih]

In the lands of late Pythium, it is 96F and quite humid... just as our Hydras like it. We don't really have a winter here.

It sucks to be a peasant though.

[Wokeye]

Unfortunately for EA Vanheim, our chilly kingdom is experiencing an influx of woolly mammoths of late.

[Twan]

Xietor said:
I do not think poor Pythium cheated. After all Dr P has his capital under siege. Most likely Pythium sympathizers sent him gold. That message is typically wrong.



Cancelling the recruitment queue when you are sieged trigger the cheating message iirc.

[yandav]

Twan said:

Xietor said:
I do not think poor Pythium cheated. After all Dr P has his capital under siege. Most likely Pythium sympathizers sent him gold. That message is typically wrong.



Cancelling the recruitment queue when you are sieged trigger the cheating message iirc.


I did cancel 2 units in my recruitment queue: the weird part is that I got this bug only once and it was the time when I try to use the kingmaker mod before the start of the real game.

On a side note: I regret that my english vocabular is so poor, I could have a lot to say to la man who decide to attack me as soon as he saw that my capital is under siege http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif
So, to niefelheim: my last wish before dying is: make la man the next on your list http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Agema]

In another MP game I had a special event, overactive merchants or something, which gave me 1500gp on the third turn or so. Is it possible that could set off the message?

[Darkwind]

Yes, that's right! As a special treat, I have opened the Bank of Ulm a turn early, with 500 gold, 4 air gems, 3 water gems, 4 death gems, and 9 earth gems. For those of you who haven't heard the news, I'll post the (finalized) summary of the Bank of Ulm and its workings, in italics just in case any of you are denser than blacksteel armor.

The Bank of Ulm is an entity which people can loan money or gems to and from. Those loaning to the BoU may gain money at a n interest but may only withdraw their money or gems after 12 turns. Those taking loans from the Bank must pay it back at an interest. The exact numbers are as follows:

Gold:
1% interest rate, compounded, on loans to Ulm
3% interest rate, compounded, on loans from Ulm
Gems:
10% interest rate on loans from Ulm of 1-9 gems
6.5% interest rate on loans from Ulm of 10-39 gems and to Ulm of 1-9 gems
4% interest rate on loans from Ulm of 40-99 gems and to Ulm of 10-39 gems
2% interest rate on loans from Ulm of 100+ gems and to Ulm of 40-99 gems
1% interest on loans to Ulm of 100+ gems

Additionally, for 100+50g-per-turn-after-opening and 1+.5gems-of-any-type-per-turn-after-opening, or an adequate item, any nation can become a Favored Customer of Ulm, recieving the following benefits:
Only 1/2 of the gold sum is compounded, the other half is non-compounded
A 7.5% interest rate on gems, instead of 10%
A 10% discount on all items forged by MA Ulm

Finally, search for diversity, search for a cheap option, search for Ulm!

One final note: Please move all offers to take or give loans to the Megagame Bank thread.

[Lingchih]

The tension in the mid continent is getting pretty strong. Not much room to move around, and not many indies left. I predict war soon, although LA Pythium will not start it.

[Baalz]

The drums have started. Thumping ever louder, they can be heard through the hills. They can be heard below the waves. Cave walls shake and smallfolk cower. The reavers from Oceana are coming, blood and steel mark the rising of the sun.

Too long have we Capricorns suffered the oppressive yoke of the Triton Kings. Too often have our reavers been censored for taking our birthright from the soft surface dwellers. No more, we say. The time of the Tritons is passed and the nation of MA Oceana lay claim to all to which we are entitled. Starting with the throne of Oceana and ending with the ascension of the new god.

The protection of the Triton Kings no longer applies and all who dwell on the coast are now subject to the law of the sea. By blood and steel we will take what is ours, those too weak or cowardly to hold in the old way may appease reavers by holding gifts high and avoiding eye contact.

The new era has begun, and the tide is rising.

[Darkwind]

I completely forgot to add in the current holdings of the Bank of Ulm. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif

In case no one wants to check my post on the last page, it's 500 gold, 4 air gems, 3 water gems, 4 death gems, and 9 earth gems.

[Zeldor]

Baalz:

I feel scared just by looking at your score graphs.

Darkwind:

Heh, and I wanted to use that good offer on loan of 100 gems :/

[Herode]

Zeldor said:
Baalz:
I feel scared just by looking at your score graphs.



So do I. ^^
The bad thing for my triton boys is that those foolish Aboleths just broke the NAP3 we signed 1 turn ago and ally themselves with the silly Caprithings. Considering the fact that they will have to wait 3 turns before attacking me, that Caprithings already took several provinces of mine and that my army if far superior to R'lyeh soft meat, thus impeding them a fast offensive, just guess
- who will take a heavy number of my provinces and who will collect crumbs
- who will eat the other one after I'll be finished http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

That said, I keep some hope in my sacred fellows and we will see how expensive they can make that invasion.
BTW, if any kind hearted people wanted to help my soldiers to fight for Universal Justice and Freedom, we will gladly accept gems, money, allies, whisky and hot babes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Just send your gifts to EA Oceania, we won't forget.

[Baalz]

Bah, there are no lack of enemies in Kingmaker that we need to make more out of our friends, and none can claim we have ever dealt unfairly with them. We take issue with your description of our ally's having broken a NAP with you - indeed despite our urgency in negotiations they insisted that they could not attack for 3 more months despite the inevitable difficulties this will cause. They did sense the changing of the tide however. Your attempt to sow discourse is hollow, for I invite all Kingmaker to observe how MA Oceana deals with their allies once the Triton Kings are slaughtered. I also invite all of Kingmaker to observe how we deal with our enemies, and offer appropriate tribute when reavers appear on your shore.

[Amhazair]

While far removed from the tumultuous happenings under the waves we offer our best wishes to our cousins, the Capricorns of MA Oceania. Of all the creatures of the sea their outlook on life is most similar to ours, even though they do retain the naive optimism about the future we shared in our earlier days, but that has been largely abandoned now in the gloomy forests of LA Pangaea.

[Xietor]

The Ancient Seers of LA Arcoscephale, the Sibyls, fortunetellers without peer, offer their services:

A.Fortunes Told-25 gold

B.Curses Placed-25 gold

C.Guidance, Advice, and Mediation of affairs:100 gold.

[llamabeast]

LA C'tis would like a fortune, publicly told. 25 gold will wing its way to LA Arcoscephale from the mighty Set the Malevolent.

[DonCorazon]

Ormund the mighty Utgard giant had faced fierce blizzard dragons and ice trolls and slain hundreds of foes until the Arcos lass with the funny face tried to seduce him one night by the campfire. Her ways of love were too foreign for Ormund, who was used to women with more meat, more hair, and more “fragrance” and much less talk. Yap, yap yap - all night she spoke in flowery prose and her ballads of love confused Ormund, giving him a pounding headache. So when he grunted for the woman to be silent, she unleashed a series of bolts from the sky. Zap after zap, poor Ormund tried to dodge the uncannily accurate lightning, each bolt causing his warrior braids to stand upright in a smoky haze. He managed at last to strike the fey temptress down, but not before she stole his manhood (Battle Fright -5).

If you should meet Ormund, he will likely run away, but beware, every now and then if you talk too much it sets him off to morale 99. /threads/images/Graemlins/icon19.gif

[Xietor]

Isimede, the Sibyl, divines this future for Set, leader of LA Ctis. Unlike the Astrologers, we do not rely on the stars. From whence our knowledge comes, none may know:

Set, God of the Desert, Head of a Beast, you will fall but shall rise again:

In one of your neighbors you must place your trust if you are to survive. If you do not another will destroy you, and this enemy cannot be defeated by LA Ctis alone.

Be very careful on how you rely on your Sauromancers in battle, as the passing ages have taken their toll. Fatigue makes cowards of us all, and death follows fatigue as surely as dark follows night.

When the Moon bleeds red, the time to act will have passed. If your ally is not in place, Set will meet his Doom, from which he will not rise.

[Hadrian_II]

The Glorious Nation of Kailasa has to make a sad announcement. The Nation of Hinnom has fallen and will soon be forgotten from the lands of Kingmaker.

Our Gurus have seen it in the Stars.

The Yavanas have shed a tear for them.

The Bandar are sharpening their swords.

The Atavi will shoot them in the back.

The Markata think that chariots are a sad excuse for an elephant.

[Xietor]

http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/a8977539bdfc0767ae94e44f28a52fb42g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=jtmys2ivfa0&thumb=4)

My neighbors who made peace were right to do so. Those that did not-tremble!


On a positive note: having only one player on AI after 11 turns with 61 players is really a pretty amazing thing.

[Lingchih]

Wow. This is a really quiet mega-game. Hardly any boasters at all, hardly any calls for gem trades. It's eerily quiet.

[Cor2]

DonCorazon said:
Ormund the mighty Utgard giant had faced fierce blizzard dragons and ice trolls and slain hundreds of foes until the Arcos lass with the funny face tried to seduce him one night by the campfire. Her ways of love were too foreign for Ormund, who was used to women with more meat, more hair, and more “fragrance” and much less talk. Yap, yap yap - all night she spoke in flowery prose and her ballads of love confused Ormund, giving him a pounding headache. So when he grunted for the woman to be silent, she unleashed a series of bolts from the sky. Zap after zap, poor Ormund tried to dodge the uncannily accurate lightning, each bolt causing his warrior braids to stand upright in a smoky haze. He managed at last to strike the fey temptress down, but not before she stole his manhood (Battle Fright -5).

If you should meet Ormund, he will likely run away, but beware, every now and then if you talk too much it sets him off to morale 99. /threads/images/Graemlins/icon19.gif



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[Cor2]

DonCorazon said:
Ormund the mighty Utgard giant had faced fierce blizzard dragons and ice trolls and slain hundreds of foes until the Arcos lass with the funny face tried to seduce him one night by the campfire. Her ways of love were too foreign for Ormund, who was used to women with more meat, more hair, and more “fragrance” and much less talk. Yap, yap yap - all night she spoke in flowery prose and her ballads of love confused Ormund, giving him a pounding headache. So when he grunted for the woman to be silent, she unleashed a series of bolts from the sky. Zap after zap, poor Ormund tried to dodge the uncannily accurate lightning, each bolt causing his warrior braids to stand upright in a smoky haze. He managed at last to strike the fey temptress down, but not before she stole his manhood (Battle Fright -5).

If you should meet Ormund, he will likely run away, but beware, every now and then if you talk too much it sets him off to morale 99. /threads/images/Graemlins/icon19.gif



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[Lingchih]

yeah, that was nice tale.

[coobe]

Bad news from Midgard !

I need a permanent sub for me, due to private problems. I cant get a turn in for the next 3-4 days http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif so its better i get a permanent sub. how can we handle this ? do i have to do something with the llamaserver ?

greetings

[Xietor]

coobe,

your sub needs to give send a pm to me so i can replace your email address with his email address.

I am sorry to hear that you have issues in your private life(: Good luck with them. Hope they are not too serious.

Thanks for playing.

Edit: If there is a current player, who has already lost his capital, or knows he is going to lose it(ie hopeless situation) that is interested in taking over midguard, who Coobe reports as not being a bad spot, let me know.

What would have to happen is Llamabeast would set your present race to ai, and you would take the present turn for midguard.

[llamabeast]

I would not give up hope on finding a temporary sub - 3-4 days is not very long. I would be happy to sub were I not already in the game (and, further, next to you), and it's fairly likely someone not in the game would be similarly happy to help.

[coobe]

im trying to get a copy of dom3 to me, but i cant tell for sure it will work. ill know more later

[Falkor]

Lanka has one piece of Amulet of the Fish for sale.
If your Kraken wishes to breath some fresh air and doesn't want to wait until the research is complete then contact Lanka's Trophy Master.

[DonCorazon]

Our smiths are still stuck trying to figure out which end of the hammer to use so Utgard is opening its vault of massive wealth to buy magic. We are fascinated by anything that glows so feel free to PM us with offers. We will provide you with the finest Mikimoto astral pearls. Just as effective as regular astral pearls, but much more prestigious for your magi.

[Herode]

EA Oceania sells a Lightning Rod.
Starting price is 60g and minimum increments are 5g.

C'mon, boys, don't you wanna own the artefact which made Ormund the Bollockless One ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Xietor]

Hadrian if you are not blowing smoke, that is fairly impressive to have killed off EA Hinnom. While I have not taken a serious look at them, they did look fairly tough at 1st blush. Sticks N Stones may break your bones!

How many of your population got eaten though?

[Zeldor]

What? Hinnom is fine and alive...

[Xietor]

oops.

maybe you meant you are going to attack them. Hope I did not ruin the surprise attack.

The Sybils of La Arcoscephale boldly predict war will break out between The Monkeys of the EA and People Eating giants!
So it is spoken! So it will be!

That will be 25 gold each from all interested parties http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Zeldor]

Maybe I missed something. I didn't really know monkeys border Hinnom http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Who wants to buy location of KO? IF you think some spells are ovepowered you could demonstrate it to him http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Xietor]

There is much you do not know, Zeldor. For a small amount of gold, you could gain enlightenment.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

As a small sample of our power we predict an end to a LA Race
of Apes. We predict the death of a Cyclops, and that a pretender for a nation with Angels will meet his doom.

[Meglobob]

Indeed, La Arco has a unlimited amount of fortune cookies.

[Xietor]

And this fortune cookie reads:

No matter how many heretics Ruin may kill, he is ever safe from the vengeance of their restless souls.

[JimMorrison]

All mine said-

"You will purchase some new clothes."

What a rip, I'm not eating at that weird Greek/Chinese restaurant again.....

[chrispedersen]

Gee... Mine was:

'Eat a Joe's'.

I mean what a fortune for a chinese place to give...

[Wokeye]

I'm pretty sure EA Vanheim's will probably read: Beware of pecking, pooping birds.

[DrPraetorious]

Knife Bright Insight crushes the tiny human cookie in his metal fist.

"You will subjugate all who dare to oppose you..."

In bed! HA HA HA HA! Grab your ankles, false idols!

[Darkwind]

I can't get Outlook Express to connect, and am thus turnless!

I may have to get a sub for this turn.

[Salamander8]

Mine just said:"Response hazy, try again"

[Revolution]

EA Abysia has gone to war with MA Tien Chi. I suggest anyone who neighbors EA Abysia to take this opportunity to bite into their reasonable sized empire while I occupy their army.

[Xietor]

Jimkehn is now in control of LA Midgard. Please address any diplomacy for la midgard to him and welcome aboard!

Hopefully Coobe has filled you in on the diplomatic status of your race.


Good Luck.

[Lingchih]

The winds of war are blowing on the northern border of LA Pythium. Kailasa moves in their fearsome sacred warriors. Lanka is moving his horrible demons. And the godlike armies of Hinnom prepare for the strike. An exciting time is coming on the mid-continent.

[Hadrian_II]

Lingchih said:
The winds of war are blowing on the northern border of LA Pythium. Kailasa moves in their fearsome sacred warriors. Lanka is moving his horrible demons. And the godlike armies of Hinnom prepare for the strike. An exciting time is coming on the mid-continent.



Kailasa reports victory, we have defeated the first army from hinnom, and we see that the next one is already waiting for a beating.

@Xietor, Arcoscephale is not the only nation, seeing the wisdom of the ether, and our gurus have seen the downfall of hinnom. (no grigori in this game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif)

[Zeldor]

Xietor:

I think you did some sort of mistake, AFAIK coobe no longer needed sub.

[coobe]

I dont need a sub anymore, but i received an email that there is a new midgard player ! i never agreed with anyone to do that. please change it back ! sorry for the messup, but i managed to get a copy over here...

please help llamabeast =)

btw who said he would sub for me ?

[llamabeast]

Hmm, very confusing! On your "I need a sub" thread coobe, jimkehn replied, and I _believe_ he's the one who's been set to sub for you. Really it would have been helpful if you had posted at least there and probably here to say you didn't need a sub anymore, to save Xietor work and jimkehn futile excitement.

Anyway, this is not my sphere, but rather Xietor's. I think he will be up fairly soon.

PS How did Zeldor know you didn't need a sub any more?

[Zeldor]

Because he did write it here, in that thread, previous page.

[llamabeast]

Hmm, I can't see that. Confusing. Anyway, no matter. I'm sure Xietor will get it all sorted when he gets online.

[coobe]

yeah my bad, should have written it in the thread. i dont know how to handle this now. i found it highly unusual to not wait for my reply, since it really was like 12 hours ago and im not on my comp all the time

[llamabeast]

Yeah, well like I say I'd sort it straight away, but I don't want to step on Xietor's toes as the game admin. I'm sure it won't be a problem.

[yandav]

I set myself to AI and I sent my gold and gems to my heir: LA Pythium.
Good game everyone and many thanks to Xietor.

[jimkehn]

As mentioned in the other thread, it is Coobe's rightful nation, and he may as well continue if he is able. I will back out. I never received a turn, anyway.

[llamabeast]

Well I think actually there's no point in me waiting for Xietor, I'll just switch the addresses now.

coobe - sorry for any worries the confusion may have caused. jimkehn - thanks for being so helpful.

On with the game!

[coobe]

so sorry for the confusion, was really my fault... but thanks jimkeh for your quick help offer !

[Xietor]

Do you guys never sleep?

Just woke up. There really is nothing here that merits anything more than a pm to me. Heh.

It is coobe's race, and it should be returned to him. But when you post that you are looking for a permanent sub, and one is found, you can assume he will be put in your place without any further ado.

In this case, I am glad things worked out for Coobe, and you never even missed a turn. Your sub was gracious, and understood. So there are no issues.

But just for future notice, when you post for a permanent sub you are, for whatever reason, getting out of the game. We are on a fast schedule right now. So I will generally, when such a sub is found, plug him into the position so he can begin to get acquainted with his race. There is no reason not to.

But all is well that ends well, and we should thank jimkehn for being willing to take over on short notice.

[Xietor]

Yandav,

Sorry your Kingmaker experience was a short one(: And thank you for playing. Sending your gold and gems to la pythium is thematic as he is the older brother to your race, and if he has any honor, he will avenge your defeat.

[Zeldor]

There are 'few' nations between LA and MA Pythium so it will be interesting http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Xietor]

you could show some gumption and declare war on Niefelheim regardless of distance! Even if it is to just show your righteous anger at your younger brother's slaughter.


Woe be to any race that destroys a civilization of Arcoscephale for war and curses will rain upon thee, and distance will be no shield from thy Ruin.

[DrPraetorious]

Obviously, Zeldor recognizes my Prophet as his rightful Emperor, and would not dare stand against him.

[Meglobob]

Xietor said:Woe be to any race that destroys a civilization of Arcoscephale for war and curses will rain upon thee, and distance will be no shield from thy Ruin.



So you will avenge Ea Arco then?

He is dead or nearly so.

No idea who dunnit but as the song says, 'it wasn't me'.

[Lingchih]

Xietor said:
Yandav,

Sorry your Kingmaker experience was a short one(: And thank you for playing. Sending your gold and gems to la pythium is thematic as he is the older brother to your race, and if he has any honor, he will avenge your defeat.



I don't even know who killed him, or where his old cap is.

[Xietor]

The younger civilization of Arcoscephale has not called upon the older for vengeance. However, the sybils all seeing eyes know who is behind the destruction of the Golden Age. And though they like to call themselves giants, they squash just as easily under an elephant's hoof as any other.

After a communion, the giants will forget that they ever served anyone other than Ruin and merrily hum as they plow our fields:

We can plow a field all day long
cut down trees from dusk to dawn
We serve our master Ruin as we must
working so hard just to get a crust.

[baruk]

Riddles are all very well..

Here's some concrete information:

Niefelheim have just taken MA Pythium's capital.
LA Utgard took EA Arcoscephale's capital.

Check the score graphs. The two giants both had a huge increase in gem income, even managing to push the impressive MA Oceania into third place.

[Zeldor]

You spoiled all the fun...

[DonCorazon]

(burp) (odor of elephant burger) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif
The nations of Arcos spend too much time in their libraries reading treatises on war written by frail sages who witnessed the hardened warriors of the north slaughter their golden curly haired soldiers, whose only reason for joining the legions was to impress some lass. You should spend your days trying to establish a preserve for your precious elephants for they have become a staple in the Utgardian diet.
We giants are the destroyers of civilization, the burners of books, the eaters of the weak. We call on all our giant kin to tear down your walls and silence your philosophical yammering. Grrr...

[Xietor]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Crushed_by_elephant.png

We think too much mead has clouded what little wits your race had to start with. Elephant burgers indeed. Most likely some moose you poached from Jotunheim! Do to your drunken thievery of your neighbor"s herd, you likely started a border war with your fellow giants!

[JimMorrison]

DonCorazon said:
...golden curly haired soldiers, whose only reason for joining the legions was to impress some lass...



Or lad. >.>

[Meglobob]

JimMorrison said:

DonCorazon said:
...golden curly haired soldiers, whose only reason for joining the legions was to impress some lass...



Or lad. >.>



Yea, this Arco we are talking about right?

Certainly a lad.

[Wokeye]

The EA Vans have observed a horde of agressive Mammoths nearing their drinking hall in the nation's capital. Their leaders have ordered them to stop partying for a few days to swat some annoying LA bird men.

Coming between a Van and his mead and ladies is never going to be a pleasant experience - though we hope to score a few nice new cloaks.

[DonCorazon]

Xietor said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Crushed_by_elephant.png
We think too much mead has clouded what little wits your race had to start with.




Wits are overrated stargazer. Before you look to your encyclopedia for consolation, you may want to ask little brother how effective his books were at stopping the bite of the woodsmen’s axe.
You are lucky your close relation with the creator of the universe placed you out of our immediate reach or surely you would be wetting your shiny gold codpiece. But I am sure some of our brother’s in your neighborhood will take offense at your insinuation that we are somehow less intelligent (not unlike the GEICO caveman). We are simply bigger in all respects.
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[Xietor]

Enough Words!

When our races meet we will see which race can fight and which cannot. Until then, try to stay alive Utgard, because we cannot exact vengeance nearly so well on the dead as the living.

[AlgaeNymph]

The oracle of the Grigori can understand a dual invasion, but complacency among her ranks annoys her. Hinnom will remedy that and grow rich on land.

[Lingchih]

LA Pythium laments the loss of our older brother, and thanks him for his generous gifts. He will be avenged. Eventually. When we can freaking find Neifelheim.

[sum1lost]

MA Mictlan has received a message from MA Vanheim. Not only were the proper protocols (Ambassadorial rules and regulations: International Politics Edition 3, page18, section 4a) not followed, nor was it sent through the correct, official channels(Ambassadorial rules and regulations volume 4, pages 9-27) for these actions, but our quite reasonable 300 gold compensation for a swamp and peace (established as proper and reasonable as per Thor v. Goats, 74 BFE*) was rejected outright as 'insulting' to the honor of the vans and werewolves.

In response to this unforeseen development, the nation of MA Mictlan has formed a new committee to deal with the matter, consisting of a significant number of jaguar and eagle warriors. This committee, thank goodness, was formed in accordance with ancient tradition rather than by the concepts brought by our new deity.

Time to eat some macahuitl, MA Vanheim.




*Before the fall of ermor

[Xietor]

LA Arcos is looking for a ring of fire and any other fr gear we can get for Ruin, who prefers the chill of the grave to the heat of the sun.

We have gems and/or gold to trade. Interested nations pm me.
Except Utgard. We do not trade with nations with whom we are at WAR!

[DonCorazon]

If that was your declaration of war, you'll have to stand in line Arcos - Utgard has a long list of worthier foes to conquer than a nation of philosophers.

We will however pay one astral pearl to whoever tells us where LA Arcos lives so we know which way to pillage! /threads/images/Graemlins/Dagger.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/icon42.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Dogbone.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/beerglass.gif

[Jazzepi]

He lives on the east side of brooklyn.

Where's my pearl?!

Jazzepi

[Zeldor]

I can sell you whole package - 20 capitol locations [nations chosen by me] just for 2000 gold. Only 100 gold per capitol! [so you can own one of them later!]

[Xietor]

Hell, i will tell you where my capital lies for 10 gems of your choice. Though you will not have to worry too much about finding me.

Just sit tight. I will come to you.

[DonCorazon]

So here is where I post on how do I to stop ethereal elephants.
Anyone, anyone?
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[Cor2]

EA arco is now AI. Its been fun, and its been even better reading these boards. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Thanks.

[DonCorazon]

Good game Cor2.

[Xietor]

Good game cor!

Thanks for playing! BTW anyone who is eliminated that wants back in as a sub just post on the thread. I am sure subs, both temp and perm will be needed as the summer wears on.

Lucky ethereal elephants! You have a year or 2. We are not that close. And you likely will have to successfully deal with Dr Wyrm before you graduate to ethereal lucky elephants.



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[JimMorrison]

Oh man, ethereal elephants? The humanity!

My humble little Gathic(?) subjugants quake at the thought. I've started using the tale as indoctrination to keep them from roaming the countryside where we are building up the infrastructure for our Blood Slave, I mean - holy nun - breeding farms. >.>

[Lingchih]

I'm not impressed until I see ethereal, flying elephants.

[Cor2]

DonCorazon said:
Good game Cor2.



Haha. Not really. I took a gamble, knowing that if I was rushed I would die. And die I did. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Twan]

DonCorazon said:
So here is where I post on how do I to stop ethereal elephants.



Not really a big deal for a thug nation.

Be aware young brother.

Astrologers predict a conjunction of the Big Wolf constellation with the Pierced Heart one and the Dark Bloody Sword comet.

Will only happen some years in the future anyway, when the Forge Hammer will be aligned with the Northern Star.

[Xietor]

There is a reason the astrologers were replaced by the Sybils. And that is because the stars are not reliable. But we shall heed thy warning nonetheless.

Ruin, Lord of Terror, has obtained a Ring of Fire. No more offers for rings of fire will be entertained.

[Xietor]

Why is Zeldor shown as la Midguard under the pretender graphs?

That is an error is it not?

Unless Coobe is a secret admirer of Zeldor?! and named his pretender after him. Hmmm. Strange Times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyJInrbFkHE

[Twan]

The pretender of Zeldor is Shad Bashemot, the one who dies every turn.

The pretender named Zeldor isn't the pretender of Zeldor, just a fan probably.

[DonCorazon]

Zeldor has fans? Good grief what is the world coming to...
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[JimMorrison]

I washed his car once.....





It wasn't NEARLY as exciting as everyone made it out to be~!

[Zeldor]

I may be affected by pretty harsh bug, I will have to examine it closer.

[Unoptimized]

The uneducated giants come to the doors of Ermor! We do hope that your woodsmen brought their thinking caps. The royal tutors have allready began preparing the largest picture books ever made.

[Xietor]

Trading 6 s gems for 6 air gems.

1st to pm me wins.

Trade complete:

LA Arcos sending 6 s gems to MA Mictlan
MA Mictlan to send 6 air gems to la arcos

[Wokeye]

Our proud mead halls have been trampled by hordes of LA Bird-driven Mammoths. We will not last much longer in the game. GG Lolomo!

[DonCorazon]

Unoptimized said:
The uneducated giants come to the doors of Ermor! We do hope that your woodsmen brought their thinking caps. The royal tutors have allready began preparing the largest picture books ever made.



Nope, just our matches. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Lingchih]

The intrepid wartime correspondents of LA Pythium do report that Hinnom is a goner. He has been crushed, and now it is a race to his capitol. His mass chariot strategy seems to have been about as effective as mass pissing on the armies of Lanka and Kailasa.

[LoloMo]

Wokeye, We have caught your warriors off guard in the midst of their celebrations, but well fought Vans! By decree, we claim the lands of EA Van, and will treat them as our equals in love and in war. Let any who dare take advantage of EA Van provinces while they are in the midst of becoming citizens of Caelum beware!

[JimMorrison]

Oh, the little conquerer has grown so bold on his diet of freshly running blood. Gath will consider honoring your threat. Maybe, maybe not. We are also emboldened by the acrid salty rush of blood, only this blood comes from our loyal subjugants. Our people are united through suffering and sacrifice, how do yours maintain their pride, I wonder?

[AlgaeNymph]

Lingchih said:
Hinnom's mass chariot strategy seems to have been about as effective as mass pissing on the armies of Lanka and Kailasa.

Because they did the right thing and ganged up on me, which is how you defeat a trampling nation.

/threads/images/Graemlins/PointUp.gifFun fact: the word "piss" (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/topics/piss.html) is in-character in the context of Biblically-inspired fiction. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/beerglass.gif

[Hadrian_II]

DryaUnda said:
Because they did the right thing and ganged up on me, which is how you defeat a trampling nation.




Both Kailasa and Lanka have units that do enough damage to your tramplers, you might had better luck when you engaged midgard instead of me.

[Lingchih]

Because they did the right thing and ganged up on me, which is how you defeat a trampling nation.



Yes, a gang-bang with Lanka and Kailasa is certainly a thing to be feared. I was about to attack you as well, but they left me no room to attack.

Hint: Those big nasty sacred Giants... you know, the ones that eat people. They are your friends. Make lots of them.

[Meglobob]

Interesting...if the Hinnom could hold out in the capital, could the giants eat enough of the population to cause the sieging armies to starve?

Also, do those Hinnom giants eat any leader in a province ie...leaders of the armies sieging them? Would make sieges of the Hinnom rather interesting... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[AlgaeNymph]

Lingchih said:
Hint: Those big nasty sacred Giants... you know, the ones that eat people. They are your friends. Make lots of them.

The units or the commanders?

[JimMorrison]

Lingchih said:
Hint: Those big nasty sacred Giants... you know, the ones that eat people. They are your friends. Make lots of them.



I did two test games with Hinnom in SP. The first game, I had a heavy dual bless and expanded exponentially, it was crazy (really awful research). The second game, I dropped the bless to get really awesome scales, and expanded with chariots - at a rate similar to what I got with giants. So the interesting part is that the sacreds are VERY thuggable, but if you want to shoot for Blood Summons as early as possible, the chariots are the way to go. People expand and conquer quite well with ele/mammoths, the chariots are far superior. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Xietor]

I think the danger of playing a race that eats the population of other races is you can be certain that most wars will be uphill affairs(i.e. you will be outnumbered).

Thank you for playing Wokeye. You took over in a dicey situation, for which i apologize for unknowingly getting you involved in. I am sure you gave a good account of yourself. Lolomo is quite good with those mammoth rushes and you are not the first, and will not be the last to fall victim to one.

[Twan]

Quietly travelling in the forests, trampling barbarians and deer tribes the armies of ME Arcocephale have made a strange discovery : a fortified city looking like it may be the center of a foreign civilization.

Long debates have opposed astrologers and priestesses about the nature of the strange red haired people inhabiting the city, and why they didn't even bothered to attack the poorly defended provinces owned by deer and lion tribes in the immediate neighbourhood of their capitol.

Some advanced it could have been a civilization so advanced they even concluded non agression pacts with tribesmen. Others considered these red haired guys should be barbarian themselves to coexist peacefully with deer and lion tribes.

As the only reaction of the strange people to the arrival of a dozen of elephants in the neighbourhood of their capitol was to send a big army of quasi naked guys leaded by what looked like their shamans to defend it, the final conclusion was they should be some kind of savage tribe themselves, the duty of Arcocephale being of course to free them from the rule of their primitive customs and allow them to discover the joys of art, philosophy, extermination of primitives and sex between young men.

It was finally good news as the peaceful people of Arcocephale were blocked by non agression pacts with their speaking neighbours in all other directions.

[Xietor]

After this weekend the hosting schedule will move to 48 hours. I am sure that is welcome news for some.

There will also most likely be a break over the 4th of July weekend, with at least the 4th, 5th and 6th of July included, and quite possibly the 3rd of July as well(Thursday)which will be a travel day.

From July 2-July 9 I will be off on a well-earned(cough) vacation. During that time Llamabeast has graciously agreed to run things.

To my enemies here and in Fallacy, do not celebrate overmuch, as I will have a capable sub, Tuidjy, though he knows it not. Hopefully he will not start too many wars while I am gone.

[Zeldor]

That's indeed sad news. I hoped for at least 10-15 turns of 24h hosting. Why so big rush to make it 48, still in early game?

[Xietor]

10 or 15 turns? lol Zeldor. Look at what turn the game is on.

When the game goes to a 48 hour hosting time it will be right on schedule, as set forth in the 1st post of the original game thread.

Obviously your turns do not require enough thought, or contemplation. I suggest a war or two to remedy thy boredom.

[Zeldor]

I didn't see anyone complaining about 24h. 95% games I have seen switch to 48h around turn 25-30. Some do it around 20 which makes uprisings among players.

And hmm... war... hmm... I have to think about that idea http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Darkwind]

Twan said:
Quietly travelling in the forests, trampling barbarians and deer tribes the armies of ME Arcocephale have made a strange discovery : a fortified city looking like it may be the center of a foreign civilization.

Long debates have opposed astrologers and priestesses about the nature of the strange red haired people inhabiting the city, and why they didn't even bothered to attack the poorly defended provinces owned by deer and lion tribes in the immediate neighbourhood of their capitol.

Some advanced it could have been a civilization so advanced they even concluded non agression pacts with tribesmen. Others considered these red haired guys should be barbarian themselves to coexist peacefully with deer and lion tribes.

As the only reaction of the strange people to the arrival of a dozen of elephants in the neighbourhood of their capitol was to send a big army of quasi naked guys leaded by what looked like their shamans to defend it, the final conclusion was they should be some kind of savage tribe themselves, the duty of Arcocephale being of course to free them from the rule of their primitive customs and allow them to discover the joys of art, philosophy, extermination of primitives and sex between young men.

It was finally good news as the peaceful people of Arcocephale were blocked by non agression pacts with their speaking neighbours in all other directions.

Do these barbarians call themselves the Marverni or do they say that they are Ulmish?

If they say they are of Ulm, then I'm afraid that relations between MA Arcoscephale and MA Ulm will sour. If they sour, well, I hope to eventually get enough gems to empower a smith to D-1, whereupon your lands will be blighted constantly and excruciatingly.

More likely, though, we'll just wave our heavily-armored fist at you in a vaguely threatening manner. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif/threads/images/Graemlins/icon47.gif

[Xietor]

To refresh memories this is from the original thread, 1st post, and will be followed.

Speed: 24 hours per host for the first 18 turns moving to 48 hours per host until around turn 70+ in which it moves to 72.

This speed was also used for the 1st Big Game, which I thought moved at a pretty good pace. Remember, this game will only break here and there for holidays, it will not break for individual personal issues of various players, who will have to find subs.

I am unaware of any major holidays after July 4th until Thanksgiving, except maybe Labor Day. But given the world wide participation in this game, I am open to suggestions and certainly will not make fun of any holiday suggestions-however obscure they may seem to us Americans.

[Lingchih]

The intrepid war reporters of LA Pythium have seen the mighty armies of Midguard attempt to wrest control of the besieged capitol of Hinnom from Lanka. It was a sad affair. So many dead skinchangers. Needless to say, Lanka remains in control of Hinnom.

[Falkor]

For the respect of the Giants, small correction: Lanka's forces are besieging Hinom which did not say the last word, of that I'm sure.

[Twan]

Darkwind said:
Do these barbarians call themselves the Marverni or do they say that they are Ulmish?



The mavernis that's it.

Their kind of druids were finally recognized having a developped spirit as they succeeded to mind burn several elephants.

The skulls of this variety of mavernis will be studied and exposed in the colonial museum of Arcocephale.

[Darkwind]

Ahh! I staled! Again! Because I forot to send in my turn! Again!

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[DrPraetorious]

Just thought I'd take this opportunity to remind you all: you're doomed.

Also, if we're going to 48 hr turns, can we turn quickhost back on? I doubt it'll matter with a stale by someone every turn anyway, but hey, it might.

[Bananadine]

EA Abysia is now selling nature gems. Slightly scorched, 13 gold each.

[Xietor]

sure, when we go to 48 hours, i will turn quickhost back on.

But someone stales every turn, so i don't think quick host will trigger much.

[Zeldor]

LA Agartha is buying gems of all kind. We can offer good price for big amounts of death, earth and fire gems!

[Xietor]

there is a trading house thread now, opened by Lolomo, that likely should contain all of the offers to buy and sell gems.

[Bananadine]

Ah, my mistake.

[atul]

It just occurred to me: Quickhost as it is normally implemented has no relevance as long as we have the inactive dummy-nation of MA Man in play. Would there be some possibility to host even if Man hasn't played its turn?

[Xietor]

np, lolomo just opened it, but you may get better responses if trades are confined to a separate thread.

I think llamabeast can submit turns for his dummy nation, but likely has not bothered since atm quickhost is off.

[Zeldor]

Hmm... did llamaserver crash on turn processing? It shouldn't take so long to generate a turn...

[AreaOfEffect]

I wouldn't worry, It just turned. You should be receiving your file soon.

[llamabeast]

Yeah, someone plugged in a broken iron and blew the fuse for the entire house, so the server was off for a few minutes.

[Zeldor]

It is still not sending turns. Request resend also does not make new turn appear.

[Falkor]

Yep, same problem. No turn file after requesting resend either.

[Xietor]

the good news is you have 48 hours-so do not panic. sit back and have a cold one-if you are of legal age of course.

[Zeldor]

7 AM, too early to go to walmart and buy some drinks. Common fridge per floor in dormitory also des not help. So I'm waiting for a turn without anything to drink http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Xietor]

7am i am usually putting a dent in the 1st pot of coffee.

An iron blows a fuse in your flat LLamabeast? I am assuming you do not even own an iron. See this is what happens when you have roommates, and you neglect to tell them the RULES.

Rule number 1. roommates may have as many overnight "guests" as they please, but they shall not become permanent fixtures around the apartment, and certainly will not begin to bring their "baggage" irons and such with them for their overnight visits.

Rule Number 2. roommates shall not drink any cold beer in the Fridge that is not their own without the express permission of said owner. Nothing worse than arriving home after a hard day's work, thinking about nothing but getting home and having an ice cold beer, then opening the front door and seeing a lot of empty beer cans on the living room floor. Murder has been done for less!

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[Bananadine]

No turn file here either. Presumably it is a universal problem.

[AreaOfEffect]

It's about time that we should all lose our calm and panic.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......

[Xietor]

we have an extra day still pretty early in the game. So I am not worried-yet.

[Lingchih]

Yes, request for resend did not work for me either. It appears we are all turnless.

[llamabeast]

Okay, fixed! Hopefully you all will have just received your turns.

It seems that the iron-related poweroff happened _during_ KingMaker's hosting. Freaky. So the server did the bit where it increases the turn number and stuff, but didn't finish the bit where it actually hosts.

You're right Xietor, I don't own an iron, it was indeed a pesky housemate. If I have anything to do with it they won't own an iron either now, being as it turns off everything in the house when it's plugged in.

[llamabeast]

Impeccable timing on the switch to 48 hours by the way!

[Foodstamp]

I just wanted to confirm, if I play my turn this evening CST I will not stale, correct? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Xietor]

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=KingMaker

[Foodstamp]

excelente

[DonCorazon]

Elephant burger run out. Now Utgard have to eat crunchy Ermorians. No meat on them! Argghhh!!!!

[Darkwind]

DonCorazon said:
Elephant burger run out. Now Utgard have to eat crunchy Ermorians. No meat on them! Argghhh!!!!

I was considering an alliance (as far as an alliance could go when neither member knows where the other is) with Utgard, but this might hurt that idea. You see, the MA Ulmish are quite meaty (though also tough, and possibly crunchy since many live almost their entire lives with armor on). Who wants an ally prone to eating your warriors? Not MA Ulm, at least.

Well, at least Utgard isn't Hinnom, whose Rephaim have a nasty reputation for just popping people into their mouths, clothes and all. No offense to Hinnom, of course; the Rephaim are otherwise quite nice fellows, once you get past their habit of gruesome and horrible feasts on humans, some of whom are sometimes still living. So, at least, I've heard.

[Lingchih]

Darkwind said:
Well, at least Utgard isn't Hinnom, whose Rephaim have a nasty reputation for just popping people into their mouths, clothes and all. No offense to Hinnom, of course; the Rephaim are otherwise quite nice fellows, once you get past their habit of gruesome and horrible feasts on humans, some of whom are sometimes still living. So, at least, I've heard.



Don't worry about offending Hinnom. They are almost deceased, courtesy of the friendly neighborhood Lankans.

[JimMorrison]

Just be afraid of offending Lanka, evil devil-worshipping monkeyspawn! :O Or is it evil monkey-worshipping devilspawn? I always get those two mixed up.....

[DaveCG]

Hmm, EA Ulm wouldn't be good eats, we're too hairy, and manly to boot, we'd get our loin cloths all up in your mizzle, fizzle.

We also take lessons in street.

Word.

[atul]

EA Ulm all manly to boot? That's strange, last time we saw your troops they featured mostly female archers.

...on the other hand, if EA Ulmish women are all manly to boot and hairy, we probably don't want to know.

Word indeed.

[Foodstamp]

I am looking for a sub to cover my turns while I am away on my honeymoon.

Whoever wants to sub for me (Helheim) I will need you to sub from July 4th to July 12th, which should encompass four turns or so.

Thanks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

[Xietor]

Fortunately for you Foodstamp, your honeymoon falls over the 4th of July holiday. so you will not miss as many turn as you otherwise would.

Game will be paused July 4, 5, and 6.

[atul]

Paused? Could you at least keep the quickhost on, in case people get their turns in? We already had a big holiday (summer equinox) go past without anyone complaining.

[Xietor]

I certainly will leave quick host on.

And I do understand that not every nation gets as excited about 4th of July as we Americans, but it is a big holiday for us, and indeed for all people that live under the Rule of Law.

If there is some holiday of special significance to a group of nations like Europe, let me know in advance. I know from Alpaca that we cannot pause the game for every British holiday because they seem to have one every other weekend.

/tease llamabeast.

[JimMorrison]

Well that's the thing, no one complained. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif (I personally actually care more for such observations, than other arbitrary "holidays", but meh)

Unfortunately for the rest of the world though, the 4th of July is a really big deal in the US. We have to take the chance to celebrate ending the oppression of our British masters, so that we could turn our attention back to oppressing the original inhabitants of this wondrous continent.

So now I guess we're kind of conflicted about the whole thing..... Instead of just throwing a party, we feel compelled to blow things up. My therapist says we were traumatized, and until we understand our buried feelings for our abusive father, we'll continue to take out our aggressions on less advantaged nations. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Xietor]

To me personally the 4th is much more than our freedom from the British, who I now view as our closest friend.

The 4th stands to as a monument to the Rule of Law, where the individual has the right to life, liberty, and property, that cannot be deprived without due process of law. And that right is one the United States has tried to safeguard for all humans. We opposed Nazi oppression and South Africa's former regime, to name a couple of worthy causes.

Obviously the United States has not been perfect in its pursuit of this goal(thanks George W Bush), but we have over the course of our history done much to further human rights worldwide. At least i like to think so. And it is in this spirit that we celebrate the 4th of July.

[JimMorrison]

Out of respect for this game thread, and for you Xietor, I will refrain from pursuing the socio-political discussion arising from my cynical humor. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Just..... try to look at the big picture, not the little snapshots that are used to distract you.....

[Xietor]

Besides firmly believing every word I wrote with every fiber of my being, I am also trying to get llamabeast happy, since he is our host and British!

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[JimMorrison]

Haha, it was nothing against the British, I had hoped that part would come across as tongue in cheek. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif I most definitely have more ire for my own nation, and how it is being led astray - than anyone else. But that is neither here nor there, I was just poking a little fun at America's pride and patriotism, and I should have known that it never goes unchallenged, even by the innocent. <3

[Janlm]

hmm... will the game be paused on danish holidays as well then?

[DaveCG]

What about us welsh? eh? eh?...

Just kidding, we really don't have many holidays...well, Saint Davids day, but that's not so much a holiday as it is...

"HEY EVERYONE! WEAR A LEEK AND SMELL LIKE *** FOR A DAY!"

Yeah...

Anyway, about ulmish women being hairy, I dislike that, it may be true but I still dislike it, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

[Bananadine]

It is not clear whether there are any Abysian women, but the warlocks maintain that should they exist, they are certainly hairless.

[DonCorazon]

In Utgard, the only women are captured Arcosphaleans. We don't seem to be able to reproduce with them and wonder why they have names like Lance and Apollo etc. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Xietor]

As I so eloquently stated, 4th of July is really a holiday for everyone who values the rule of law!

[Reay]

No bites yet Xietor? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Oh yeah what about us Aussies! 26th of January, for everyone who values the rule of *insert typical Australian stereotype here*.

[Xietor]

I think most people like Fosters Lager. If you can find out when the brewing of the worthy beverage commenced, we could do some sort of honorarium.

[Darkwind]

MA Ulm certainly has women. How many, though, is unknown; they, like the rest of Ulm's population, spend their time in suits of armor that cover pretty much everything. For all we know, every Black Knight currently serving Ulm is female. For all we know, actually, every MA Ulman in the army could be a woman (Ulwoman?). The world may never know.

[DrPraetorious]

Personally, I prefer to celebrate the overthrow of the rule of law on Bastille day. During the 10 days between July 4th and Bastille day, I ceremonially refrain from commiting any felonies.

Then, out comes the Guillotine!

[MaxWilson]

DryaUnda said:

/threads/images/Graemlins/PointUp.gifFun fact: the word "p***" (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/topics/piss.html) is in-character in the context of Biblically-inspired fiction. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/beerglass.gif



Yeah, it means "every male." E.g. 2 Kings 2:9, 1 Sam 25:22, 34.

-Max

[MaxWilson]

Xietor said:
To me personally the 4th is much more than our freedom from the British, who I now view as our closest friend.

The 4th stands to as a monument to the Rule of Law, where the individual has the right to life, liberty, and property, that cannot be deprived without due process of law. And that right is one the United States has tried to safeguard for all humans. We opposed Nazi oppression and South Africa's former regime, to name a couple of worthy causes.

Obviously the United States has not been perfect in its pursuit of this goal(thanks George W Bush), but we have over the course of our history done much to further human rights worldwide. At least i like to think so. And it is in this spirit that we celebrate the 4th of July.



Ditto on both points. I was pretty hostile to Britain as a kid because of the whole War for Independence thing, but as I grew up I realized that was silly. Britons are our cousins. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Yay for America and all our friends!

-Max

[DrPraetorious]

Personally, I'm hostile to the Britons for sending all these knuckle-dragging misogynistic Americans over here. Double thanks for the puritans, you bastards.

[Cor2]

Calvinists are funny...

[JimMorrison]

I wish they could heal their rift with the Hobbes'ists. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Xietor]

Dr Wyrm? Say it ain't so? Another of the Early HOF pretenders bites the dust.

[AdmiralZhao]

Yes, I blame this on playing too many games as Mictlan. The Marignon heavy infantry are the same color as Jaguar Warriors, and they cost about the same amount, so I thought they might be similarly effective. Sadly, that is not the case, and Dr. Wyrm was had to face too many fish-men for too long.

Still, I think my nation has a decent position. Despite our disastrous foreign adventure, we have a strong web of alliances and treaties, which I am sure will keep my neighbors from devouring me like a school of piranhas.

[Xietor]

I am sure if you toss a few astral gems our way the Sybils would counsel Ruin to refrain from crushing you underfoot while you are in the process of recalling your Wyrm. Does 10 f 10 s sound about right?

Who in their right mind would want to meet a teleporting empowered s3 Elephant who can self buff with body ethereal and resist magic, and who wears a luck pendant and amulet of mr? Sounds like a cheap price to avoid such a terror!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[DonCorazon]

Ethereal elephants - yum. Same great taste, but less filling.

[AdmiralZhao]

An S3 mage scripted to cast Mind Duel?

[Xietor]

My elephant is mindless. He was actually an undead elephant.

[Lingchih]

The heroic nation of Late Pythium hereby declares war on the evil demon state of Lanka.

[Agema]

In contrast to the continued death of some pretenders, the large, gregarious and cuddly God of EA Atlantis, also known as Squiggles, is imminently due to re-emerge and hug a whole new batch of friends with its many tentacles.

[Xietor]

I think you got lucky and ended up in a different pond then the aggressive water races. Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Agema]

Actually, I've already declared war on and attacked MA Rlyeh, so it's bloodshed everywhere in the seas. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[coobe]

Soon the blood of lizards (LA Ctis) will colour our swords.......

[llamabeast]

Ha! You might get a bit of bonedust on your swords before your skinshifters are cut down by the hordes of awakened C'tissian dead.

[Xietor]

I will as promised, link the map file sometime during the course of this game. I was thinking around turn 40. By now, everyone knows the locations of their neighbors' capitals, so the nations most affected will remain the 5 whose starting locations were predetermined:

LA Marignon, LA Atlantis, EA Lanka, EA Ryleh, and EA Oceania.

But the location of these nations' capitals could likely be had for 5 gems if someone wanted them, as most of their neighbors would likely sell out their locations for a song.

[Zeldor]

I can give you locations of those 5 nations, really cheap http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Xietor]

Nations dropped like flies last turn, with the last remnants of three drawing their last breath.

[DrPraetorious]

Ouch http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif.

Invading EA Agartha has proven more expensive than I had anticipated - this is what I get for underestimating a seemingly green opponent.

Kudos to him! If he manages to hold me off, I'll wish for his victory.

[DonCorazon]

At the first gleam of sunlight, the small Utgardian army saw the horrible legion across the valley while the steady pounding of war drums shook the damp earth. Over 500 strong, the Ermorian ranks were filled with disciplined legionnaires outfitted in gleaming silver armor, the purple flags with grinning skull-emblazoned standards flapping in the chill morning wind. Barack, supreme warlord of the Utgardian horde, felt his heart skip as he peered closer at the shadowy ranks. Skeletal knights clad in rotting armor with wicked scythes and notched swords were positioned on the flanks. And in the Ermorian rearguard, an entire cadre of necromantic sorcerers chanting their fell craft. When the battle let loose the Ermorian mages channelled their power and let loose an endless sequence of spells designed to ensnare the Utgardian woodsmen in the lure of Ermor’s false god. But in the darkest hour of doubt, the independent spirit and berserk battlelust of the horde could not be overcome and Utgard saw Ermor for what it was, the rotting pile of books of another dying civilization. /threads/images/Graemlins/icon19.gif

[Xietor]

In the 1st Big Game the Late Age races were crushed. While it is still early, they seem to be doing better this year than last.

[Zeldor]

Nah, imagine what Lolomo would do with EA Caelum http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Lingchih]

Xietor said:
In the 1st Big Game the Late Age races were crushed. While it is still early, they seem to be doing better this year than last.



I was LA Pan in the 1st game, and was quite strong at the end. Of course, both MA and LA Ermor, my allies, surrounded me. Might have had something to do with it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[LoloMo]

Haha, I shall attempt to make LA Caelum worthy of their EA predecessors. Too bad the advance of civilization have made the birdfolk such dirtheaded slackers hahaha.

[Hadrian_II]

Xietor said:
In the 1st Big Game the Late Age races were crushed. While it is still early, they seem to be doing better this year than last.



Werent EA nations the crushed ones? At least LA Ermor, Rlyeh and Pangaea where around in the end of the game. From MA there where Pangaea, Ctis and Agartha while from EA just Pangaea was around.

If i remember correcty, the problem was that the weak troops of the EA Nations let them crumble in the early game before they are able to get a benefit from their magical superiority. That Pangaea was the only EA nation to survive does almost prove that point, as Centaurs are very good at going head to head with an enemy army.

[Xietor]

That is what we call revisionist history.

LA Pan was crushed in the first Big Game by MA Van. LA Pan survived because velusion saved them and they became a vassal to LA Ermor. Of course LA Ermor and LA Ryleh were the notable exceptions to the rule in the 1st Big Game.

I am not talking about the very end end. EA Lanka, Mictlan,
Pangaea and other races from the early era well did well into the midgame. If you check the other game thread, I think you will see many were surprised that the LA nations fared so poorly.

[Hadrian_II]

Xietor said:
That is what we call revisionist history.

LA Pan was crushed in the first Big Game by MA Van. LA Pan survived because velusion saved them and they became a vassal to LA Ermor. Of course LA Ermor and LA Ryleh were the notable exceptions to the rule in the 1st Big Game.

I am not talking about the very end end. EA Lanka, Mictlan,
Pangaea and other races from the early era well did well into the midgame. If you check the other game thread, I think you will see many were surprised that the LA nations fared so poorly.



Both LA and EA did not do so good, from EA just Pan was around and from LA pan, ermor and rlyeh were around. While from MA Pangaea, Ctis, Agartha and i think Ermor, Machaka and Pythium were in fighting shape. So both EA and LA did not do very well. (there is a small discussion in the Perp thread on page 130 about this)

[Xietor]

Well,

you have to take the endgame with a grain of salt. EA Oceania was a major power, but got double teamed by la ermor and la ryleh. I mean no nation could withstand that.

Then Baalz, as la mictlan got special attention from la ryleh, who by that time was wishing 5 times per turn. again, what nation could withstand that?

So I think it is a mistake to look at the endgame to see how the nations fared. Any nation singled out by la ryleh or la ermor(and his unholy alliance) was likely not long for the world. Except of course, the resilient Lizards.

[Hadrian_II]

Xietor said:
So I think it is a mistake to look at the endgame to see how the nations fared. Any nation singled out by la ryleh or la ermor(and his unholy alliance) was likely not long for the world. Except of course, the resilient Lizards.



The Lizards did not have too much to fear, one of their flanks was protected by their strong pangaean allys, and the other on was guarded by almost 2 layers of puppet nations http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Lingchih]

Well, Lanka appears to be weak and defenseless. We Pythians took half of their provinces this turn. Anyone else that wants to attack Lanka, now is the time.

[Zeldor]

I think you blocked Lanka's neighbour anyway http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Lingchih]

My oh my. Lanka seems even less well-defended than we had thought. Quite a pushover, we would think. All bordering nations should now move in to take a piece of the dying Lanka empire.

[Darkwind]

by reporter Orangescrags Grapesquiggle

This just in! In a bizarre twist of fate, MA Ulm has attacked a nation known traditionally as the attacker, LA Mictlan. We are told that MA Ulm was helping its serpentine allies in C'tissians of various ages. Anonymous, the Mouth of Monny, has called C'tissians "trusted allies - especially my little Serpent Dancer here"; EA C'tis has not told reporters about how the Serpent Dancer came to Ulm.

The battle involved roughly eighty Ulmish and twenty-five Mictlani lead by the Hell-King of Mictlan, a Moloch, and his personal retinue of unholy hellspawn. The Black Acolyte attending the battle, known as "Alarik", reported being "surprised that I was actually useful; I just expected to, y'know, sit there and bless the Smiths or somethin'". The Mictlani Jaguar Warriors were easily dispatched by the Guardians of MA Ulm; however, the Moloch simply flew towards the Guardians while they were defeating his revered and legendary force and struck back. One of the Smiths, called Anonymous, reported feeling that the Moloch (whose name is unknown; the Mictlani language was too primitive ("oog oog tudd" was one Guardian's rendition of their speech) to understand) was "f9b4ohgodohgodPLEASEHELPMETHENIGHTMAARES". What this means is currently unknown; what is known is that three of the horrifyingly ugly Toad-Priests of LA Mictlan (a strange offshoot from the Atlantians) were present at the battle.

As for the battle itself, much of it consisted of archer volleys and Magma Bolts fired at the pathetically weak Jaguar Warriors and a desperate attempt to even hurt the Moloch. Though the Guardians fled early into the battle after wiping out the last remnants of the Jaguar Warriors, the Black Knights stayed until the very last fell, valiantly attacking the Hell-King of Mictlan and smiting his retinue. The Smiths' Magma Bolts, though they destroyed the Jaguar Warriors, did nothing to harm the absurdly lucky Moloch. In the end, after the last of the Black Knights Fell, the Smiths decided that Monny was better served alive and ran for the hills to join the Guardians and archers.

The Black Knights who gave their lives have been declared holy, and those remains not eaten by the Moloch were cremated in the Forges of Ulm to give strength to those who need it most - those on the frontline, defending their family, their friends, and their country.

[JimMorrison]

I am..... moved, and deeply saddened for the loss suffered by the Ulms. I shall send a candy-gram.

[DonCorazon]

Darkwind said:
The Black Acolyte attending the battle, known as "Alarik", reported being "surprised that I was actually useful; I just expected to, y'know, sit there and bless the Smiths or somethin'".



LOL - nice report.

[Agema]

Never mind, I should use the specific file...

[Xietor]

DO i take it that poor Evilhomer is being triple teamed? Have the Lizards and Ulm no shame. What about 2 v 2? A fair fight.

[Falkor]

Lingchih said:
My oh my. Lanka seems even less well-defended than we had thought. Quite a pushover, we would think. All bordering nations should now move in to take a piece of the dying Lanka empire.



Every hunting squad in the Holy Hunting Ground of Lanka has got an order to search for the signs that could reveal the place of resting of our beloved and fearsome god. Prim, Guardian of Existence is slowly coming out of his eons-long dormancy. Lanka will greet its god suitably.
No surprise that invading force of Pytium found only markata cleaners and bandar grave diggers to protect the land.
Last month however, the odds changed. Renegade Sybil wandering through the land has been captured. During the ritual feast, being slowly consumed she went into prophetic trance and gave us the answer. "The rotting head of Krynos, ruler of Pytium and false pretender, impaled on an oak stick eleven days after his decapitation will speak the words you so much desire" - said the mysterious woman before drawing her last breath.
Great search ended successfully. Great hunting begins.

[Lingchih]

Heh. Bring them on Lanka. I hope you have the balls for demons vs. Hydras.

[Digress]

Xietor said:
DO i take it that poor Evilhomer is being triple teamed? Have the Lizards and Ulm no shame. What about 2 v 2? A fair fight.



We respectfully suggest you go back to baking fortune cookies. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Amhazair]

If I might make the following official statement:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif I absolutely HATE having to besiege 700-defence capitals in early game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

Thank you for your time, that was all.

[Meglobob]

Amhazair said:http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif I absolutely HATE having to besiege 700-defence capitals in early game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif



Heh, if I can do a 500 one, I am sure you can do a 700 one. Anyway better to besiege than be sieged. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Btw can anyone tell me the odds on all 3 Ctis nations starting as virtual neighbours?

[atul]

You guys have it easy. Try even thinking about besieging any castles when all your siegers are considered animals and get huge penalties at sieges. :E

[DonCorazon]

It seems Utgard has been sleeping in the lower end brothels http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif while on our campaign to rid the world of the undead blight of Ermor and have caught a pesky case of the Eriu. Symptons: blurred vision, temporary loss of PD 1 provinces, can lead to blindness if you try to scratch.

[Herode]

Considering the number of times he died in 20 turns, the God of LA Agartha seems to suffer heavy health issues. Is there any reliable doctor out there ? ^^

[Meglobob]

I suspect immortality...not seen La Agarthas god thou...seems a fun strategy.

[Herode]

Seems a strategy where the SC false god often looses combats http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Xietor]

I am off for Vacation. Llamabeast is now the official Game admin. until I get back and resume. Hopefully Tuidjy will do better at processing my war than I have done.

Since I only play the MA I learn painful new lessons every turn(: But my sub claims to be love LA Arcos. so we shall what he can do.

Good luck everyone.

Be back on the 9th of July!

[Zeldor]

Hmm... the holiday break is already after that turn? Or after 22nd?

[Xietor]

the official holiday is the 4th, 5th, and 6st. But I am leaving on July 2nd.

I relinquished my administrative duties a day early, as I am busy packing etc. So all game admin. requests please direct to llamabeast such as subs etc.

[llamabeast]

Okay, so... the current turn is due in on the 3rd. The holiday is on the 4th, 5th and 6th apparently. So I guess I will postpone for 48 hours after the next hosting meaning the turn will be in on the 7th rather than the 5th. Actually maybe I should postpone by 60 hours just to make sure everyone has time. The turn'll then be due in around 7pm GMT on the 7th. Does that sound okay?

(Note that this doesn't relate to the current turn. The current turn is still in around 7am GMT on the 3rd. I don't want to cause any confusion.)

[Digress]

llamabeast said:
(Note that this doesn't relate to the current turn. The current turn is still in around 7am GMT on the 3rd. I don't want to cause any confusion.)

[JimMorrison]

Xietor said:
the official holiday is the 4th, 5th, and 6st. But I am leaving on July 2nd.

I relinquished my administrative duties a day early, as I am busy packing etc. So all game admin. requests please direct to llamabeast such as subs etc.



A full week, nice! Have fun in the woods, or whatever you're doing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif You don't have to be shy to tell us that it's a Dom3 LARP trip. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Bananadine]

Pictures would be good too (of the styrofoam Horror Helmets etc.).

[DonCorazon]

It seems Eriu not only launched a dastardly surprise attack on Utgard in the midst of our negotiations, but while viewing his heineous actions this morning, my video card died. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Talk about a double kick in the nuts.

Anyway, Utgard will be scrambling to get our turn done on the work laptop which means lots of Alt-tabbing and sneaky peeks over the shoulder. Any nations sympathizing with our plight and worried about your own video cards, feel free to attack the nasty Eriu.

[JimMorrison]

Our intelligence points to Xietor's vacation as a distraction to let the Eriu get in place for this en masse sneak attack.

Gath feels bad even if we have no idea where you are, we shall send pie. Bloo.... BLUEberry pie, rather. Everyone likes blueberries.

[atul]

Gath should pay more attention to propel intel - after all it's Utgård who's currently invading your neighbour's neighbour's neighbour. In a map like this, it's not even far!

Too bad about the second kick in the nuts, hopefully the card is replaceable.

[Lingchih]

Regarding recent intel about the importance of Krynos' head to Lanka, LA Pythium has decided to move his head to a safe location. We shall have to move his body along with it, since it does not function correctly without it's head.

[Gregstrom]

Ashdod would like to thank EA Caelum for the bumper harvest of mammoth-burgers they just delivered. They were yummy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[atul]

Yeaz holy Batman, that was quite a fight Utgård just lost. Giants losing steam of late?

In other news, Bandar Log is still living in peaceful coexistence with nature. Which may not surprise anyone paying attention.

(And plz someone play MA Man's turn this time so quickhost would even be an option)

[DonCorazon]

We were so close to squashing those Apostacy-spamming grand Thaumaturgs. I think the battle might have gone the other way had Barack Obama not forgotten to move my newly arrived reinforcements to the front lines (lack of real-world military experience?). Doh...

Anyway, well-fought battle Ermor! Back to the drawing board.

[DonCorazon]

P.S.If anyone thinks that Eye Shields rarely blind people should take a look at my turn. One Sidhe with defense 24 vs. PD 20+ in my capital. Sidhe is surrounded on all sides by 10 Attack Huskarl, 3 per square. Midway into the fight I checked and all of them adjacent to the Sidhe were blinded (probably 15+ blind huskarls). He also took out one eye of the Jotun jarl with MR 15 that finally took him down. Can't remember if MR helps vs Eye Shield.

[DrPraetorious]

Okay, I've got EA Agartha's number now.

I believe I just killed his God outside of his dominion, even.

Kudos to him for being so fierce! If I'd known he'd put up this kind of resistance, I would've tried to make him an ally. Ah well, live and learn.