Bug Bug Thread: Discussion - Page 110

Edi · #**1091** July 19th, 2007, 09:08 AM

Looks like the reanimation lists need to be rechecked then. The tomb stuff for C'tis works in the next patch, but there seem to be irregularities with the normal reanimation. If somebody could test this more with various undead H3 reanimators and various nations, that'd be great.

Kristoffer O · #**1092** July 19th, 2007, 12:21 PM

> My H3 LA Agarthan Tomb Oracle only has the option of ghouls/soulless/longdead. No longdead horsemen.

Hmm, I think we need to fix it so that horses can't be reanimated underground.

Actually I'm not sure if anyone is supposed to be able to create horsemen. I think it's a national ability. And that should work fine now. Got to check when I get home.

MaxWilson · #**1093** July 19th, 2007, 02:21 PM

Page 70 of the manual says that H3s are supposed to get 5 longdead horsemen per reanimation. No mention is made of it being national.

-Max

Kristoffer O · #**1094** July 19th, 2007, 02:39 PM

No. I didn't think it would. In dom-ppp only ermor had priest skill high enough to reanimate horsemen. Later on C'tis got it.

To keep nations unique we made ermor the only horse summoner. Part of this was because the other reanimation nation, C'tis, shouldn't get horses. I'm not sure, but we might have discussed allowing horses on all after that, but IIRC the horses are restricted atm.

The manual reference is there to tell how many horses you would get if you reanimate. It also includes Lictors, which is also Ermor only. It should perhaps include a note that not all nations can reanimate horses or lictors. But I've not really given horse reanim any further thoughts.

MaxWilson · #**1095** July 19th, 2007, 03:04 PM

Good to know, thanks!

-Max

Edi · #**1096** July 20th, 2007, 02:00 AM

In Dom2 at least you could reanimate longdead horsemen with Mictlan if you got Mictlipoctli, he had high enough unholy for that. Now that he has changed to holy but being undead, he might still pull it off.

vfb · #**1097** July 20th, 2007, 03:24 AM

No, Mictlipoctli's not able to reanimate Longdead Horsemen. I even gave him the Sword of Justice to bump him to H4, and it doesn't make any difference. He just gets Ghouls/Soulless/Longdead Warriors, like everyone else in Mictlan who's H2/H3 and demon/undead (including Bune, the Civateteos and Tlaloques etc).

Must be a nation-specific thing. Bune can reanimate Longdead Horsemen if he belongs to MA Ermor, but not Lictors. If Bune belongs to LA Ermor, he can reanimate both Longdead Horsemen and Lictors (if he's bumped to H4).

Edi · #**1098** July 20th, 2007, 04:11 AM

That's nice to know. So it must be nation specifics, as Kristoffer said. So, everything seems to be in order. If the horseman thing in the shortlist, it won't be there for long.

Kristoffer O · #**1099** July 20th, 2007, 09:57 AM

Some horse heavy nations like sauromatia might deserve a horse reanim ability, should they get an undead priest (Sauromatian got one with the new hero, Sk�gu's immortal spouse, but she is more likely used to summon her partholonian longdead allies than to reanimate).

Edi · #**1100** July 20th, 2007, 10:05 AM

I suppose LA T'ien Ch'i would perhaps be another one? Can't think of any other nations with a lot of horse units.