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Old July 14th, 2008, 10:21 AM

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Default Complete List of MA Heroes(base game).

A weekend of extensive testing of every middle era nation
has yielded what i believe to be a complete list of the base game heroes for the middle era. I added the unit id numbers for each hero as well.

It is possible I missed a hero. Basically I created games, sometimes 2 or 3 per race, with luck 3, and clicked through 200 turns. So while it is possible a hero escaped detection,
it is not likely.

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Throne of Heroes

1. Arcoscephale:
Pathos- Son of Titans (954)
Asterios- Monster in the Maze (1089)
Orokestes –Hierophant (587)
Daidalos- Maker of the Maze (1073)

Multihero:


2 Ashdod
Shashai, first son of Anak (2048)
Ahiman , second son of Anak (2047)
Talmai, third son of Anak(2049)


3. Abysia
Chuzrael the Slayer(867)
Rago, Rage Lord(539)
Ba’ al Chozron, Anathemant Warlock (581)

4. Agartha
Klaus, Mason of the Underworld (1848)
Golag, Decrepit (1847)
Kin-Breaker, Onyx Oracle (1846)

Multihero

5. Atlantis
-Chuddar Kadul, Seer King (558)
-Shudul Cthuda, Coral Prince (373)
Multihero


6. Bandar Log

None Found!


7. Caelum:
-Zaelinys, Harab Seraphine(557)
-Caelos, Sacred One (556)

Multihero:

8. C`tis
Niklatu, Lizard Hero (379)
Urugallu, Lizard Hero (380)
Murmur, Guild Master (585)
Kabti’ili, Ancient Shaman (635)

9. Eriu
Tuan, Last Partholonian(1794)
Ferdiad, Fir Bolg Hero (1777)
Cu Chulainn, Hero (1778)
Scathach, Trainer of Heroes(1844)

Multihero
Mathghamhain, Fianna(1806)


10. Ermor:
-Zirru, Grand Thaumaturg(977)
-Mortius Scythe Wielder (868)

Multihero:

11. Jotunheim
-Tjatse, Abductor (1382)
-Angerboda, Great Hag (586)
-Sporsnjall, Wolf Lord (508)

12. Machaka
Mchumba, Ape Oracle (1706)
Ainra, Lady of Spiders (946)
Abasi, Hero(952)
Yasini, King Triumphant (953)
Mwaka, Crowned Ape (1426)


13. Man
-Bernlad, Green Knight (376)
-Rhianne, Heroine (381)
-Brangwen, Blind One (582)

Multihero
-Knight of the Stone (58)

14. Marignon
Angelique d'Armant (588)
Carmont, Cardinal (583)
Tomaso del Monferrada, Witch Hunter General (589)

15. Mictlan:
Mixcoatl, Priest King (1886)
Topiltzin, Priest King (1884)
Mictlipoctli, King of Legends (933)


16. Oceania

None Found!


17. Pangaea
Taurotyrannos, Black Bull (611)
Rams Head, White Satyr (770)
Arcopythera, Harpy Queen (614)
Menopathos, White Minotaur (540)

18. Pythium
Marius Lorca, Hero(505)
Hierogallus, Hero (Serpent Lord)(506)
Bartholomäus, Patriarch (584)
Multihero
Master of the Games(37)


19. R'lyeh
Auluudh, Aboleth(660)
Cthugul, Stargazer (560)
Shubejc, Visitor (1408)

Multihero
Traitor Prince (444)

20. Shinuyama
Yukinaga, Heart Hider(1670)

21. Tien Chi
Lu Tung Pin, immortal (943)
Ho Hsien-KU, immortal (942)
Li Tìeh-Kua, Master with Iron Crutch (944)

22. Ulm
Raterik the Hero (378)
Hildegard the Heroine (507)
Barthulf the Hero (377)

23. Vanheim
Vanlade, Hero (590)
Farbaute, Hero (544)

Multihero
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Default Re: Complete List of MA Heroes(base game).

R'lyeh should have Shadul Ummush, the Traitor King instead of the Traitor Prince (which is a recruitable commander for MA)

Arco should also have the Hoplite Commander hero, Anthromachus the Hero.
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Default Re: Complete List of MA Heroes(base game).

Edit-my list is 100 percent accurate. Which is why I did my test. Things may not be what they seem.



I disagree on arcos. While I have seen that immortal hero in the past, i ran 3 games to 200 turns, and all 4 of the other heroes appeared. He never appeared once. So maybe he is for another era now, or something, but I cannot get him to appear in a MA Arcos test game.
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Default Re: Complete List of MA Heroes(base game).

Antromachus certainly appears in late era, but I'm fairly certain I've seen him in MA games as well. Consider that I've more than once played games where I had neutral or positive luck and never got a hero in the first 100 turns even for nations that have 2 or more of them.
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Default Re: Complete List of MA Heroes(base game).

Was there not also until the last patch a limit of 4 heroes per race? if so, arcos. has their 4, unless the immortal was a multihero?

and is it possible he needs to be enabled or something after the last patch? I am fairly certain he appears in the ma as well, but i play Worthy Heroes so much I am not sure what is mod and what is vanilla, which is why i did the test.
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Default Re: Complete List of MA Heroes(base game).

It was 5 heroes + 2 multiheroes per nation, now its 6+2.
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Default Re: Complete List of MA Heroes(base game).

When I get more time, i will create 3 more ma arcos games and see if i can find him! But I cannot add any hero to my list until i can actually make appear in the most recent version.

But if anyone else sees him in a vanilla game started after the most recent patch, let me know.
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Default Re: Complete List of MA Heroes(base game).

Back when I was testing for worthy heroes I noticed him missing as well, so I enabled him in worthy heroes.

By the way a more effective way of testing is to set it up as a server game with all nations and set hosting to 1/minute. Just log in every ~100 turns and check which heroes are there.

A little problem are old age heroes, which can die without you noticing, but growth3 pretenders or modding the susceptible candidates to have nature magic fixes that.
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Default Re: Complete List of MA Heroes(base game).

Thanks Turin-that is indeed the problem i ran into trying to do more than 2 nations at a time. Heroes dying of old age(:

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Default Re: Complete List of MA Heroes(base game).

Well heck, just set up several games using the All Ages mod, and let them do 1 turn hostings for a few hours.

I might do that myself, sounds fun.

Though making ~50 pretenders (for all the nations I have none saved) doesn't sound so fun.
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