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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:09 PM
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There will be by the time I'm done, but that is going to take a long while yet. The DB will come out without the items, but they will be next on the list after that.

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Edi - We'll be patient, or at least try! The ability to at least mix-and-match items to mod new items will open up *a lot* of possibilities.

What would create *even more* possibilities would simply being able to add arbitrary spells as "secondary effects" to items.

I'm still playing around... I created a pretender assigned with the weapon "Banish to Inferno". It seems to work - the info box shows a magical weapon with -12 damage. I don't know if I just tripped across a spell that had already been "weaponized" (since assigning weapons with "made up" names just caused crashes), or if any spell will work that way. Playtesting the pretender, I have yet to actually confirm the Banish to Inferno weapon has been used, since weapons don't notify themselves in the battle screen's scrolling text. I'll experiment with some more spells and post when I get a chance.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 12:24 PM
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Ah, well, it didn't take much playtesting. I tripped across "Banish to Inferno" by lucky accident; most battlefield spells are not recognized as weapons at all.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 02:58 PM
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With the time this project is going to take, I'm going to have to start releasing stuff piecemeal to allow people to get on with their mod projects.

I switched from doing units to modding weapons and getting them done first. The weapon stats WILL be incomplete, because there is simply no way to know all of the attributes just by looking at the description, but they will be as complete as I can make them. I found a way to test for the bonus status of a weapon and how many hands it requires, so those will be there.

The weapon DB will be ready by early next week at the latest, at which point I'll be going back to units.

The armor list is one goddamn pain in the arse since assigning creatures armor by armor number is STILL NOT enabled. That means I can get the stats for the armors down but not the names until I find what matches what.

There's a special icon made for that one:

Another thing that has been confirmed: Changing a mod on the fly WILL retroactively change any games started with that mod enabled, so even in MP games it is possible to retroactively correct mod mistakes by just editing them out and ensuring that everyone has the corrected version when the next turn hosts. Recruitment lists, weapon and armor assignments, everything gets retroactively pasted even on top of already recruited units.

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Old January 30th, 2007, 03:43 PM
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Frank - yet, "Banish to Inferno" behaves, and shows, as a weapon that can be assigned to a pretender by a mod. The curious part, to me, is if "Banish to Inferno" was never established as an actual weapon itself.

Edi - Thanks for your work. It's nice to have developers actively participating in the forums.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 04:06 PM
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A lot of weapons are essentially special effects. Some weapons, like Magebane, are physical weapons that also have other effects when they strike a target. Magebane has Unconsciousness, which deals a metric ton of armor negating stun damage and has an additional effect of its own called slay magic, which theoretically could have another effect and so on ad infinitum. You can also construct infinite feedback loops by making two weapons have each other as additional effects.

Also, I'm a developer since when and did somebody remember to tell JK and Kristoffer? I wasn't even on the bloody beta test team, or else this project would be MUCH farther along than it is right now.

The weapon and units bug list I'm going to post after I'm done is going to be murder on the IW guys...

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