Monkeys cry for changes?

lch · #1 May 13th, 2008, 08:55 PM

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ano said:
The fact they are the only nation (Atlantis had some as people said but probably also needs some reworking) that has no victories in MP in all eras speaks for itself.

And it is back! The already-debunked argument that doesn't care about facts to make a point. I did the unspeakable and won by Kailasa! And I had a grand time while doing so!

ano · #2 May 13th, 2008, 09:00 PM

Then probably I'm wrong. Actually I was speaking mainly about Bandar and Patala.

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I've never played the monkey nations, but doesn't Astral imply Communion? Why aren't the monkeys throwing around Divine Bless? Do the priests not have Astral?

-Max

Eeeh.. Probably because their only priest is equal to the standard indy one in all aspects but costs 10 gold less and has 7 morale.

lch · #3 May 13th, 2008, 09:09 PM

And I actually meant Patala. I'm rather sleepy.

Here are the graphs from that game, although they don't really give justice to showing how far ahead I was to the rest: http://valhalla.techno-mage.com/webs...game=oomermaid

If there's a nation that could maybe require an overhaul then I'd rather look at Jomon/Shinuyama. They didn't really look that strong to me. But that's just an impression that I got while playing against them, can't say anything until I played with them myself. The apes rather surprised me, too.

Edi · #4 May 14th, 2008, 02:18 AM

The animal siege penalty thing is what needs overhauling since the monkeys have a hard time denting any walls.

Wick · #5 May 14th, 2008, 02:49 AM

Maybe they should just be able to climb the walls? :-)

Lingchih · #6 May 14th, 2008, 04:13 AM

Well... monkeys suck. Nuff said. Sorry if I did not get into the gist of this conversation. I just hate monkeys.

peace out

Randvek · #7 May 14th, 2008, 04:22 AM

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lch said:
I did the unspeakable and won by Kailasa! And I had a grand time while doing so!

Ich, I think you could win a game with nothing but hoburgs. Take this guy on in multiplayer at your own risk.

Humakty · #8 May 14th, 2008, 04:40 AM

Bandar Log as several good points going for it :
-recruitable everywhere sacreds : with enougth indep priests, you can attack with lots of them on turn one, or use less priests, decoys and hold & attack
-Their low level conjuration summons (low cost too) makes this nation a hich astral, earth, water and nature nation ; for a game wich is all about magic it should help a bit.
The only point on which I agree with Ano is the pitifull siege capacity. And the OH MY GOD THIS PD IS RUBISH !!!!

Meglobob · #9 May 14th, 2008, 05:00 AM

I think Machaka needs help more than the monkey nations that have had plenty of attention. Machaka is looking seriously old and outdated, its a very unpopular nation in MP. In fact I think its largely forgot about.

Hopefully, Machaka will get its much overdue overall and we will get the EA Machaka nations and a LA nation? Plus plenty of new national spells please, just like the monkey nations who have tons.

Humakty · #10 May 14th, 2008, 05:08 AM

I fully agree Machaka is less powerfull than Bandar (never played Patala) : no specific spells, worse PD ( we should organize a PD deathmatch to know for sure), meh sacreds (capitol only "en plus"),and a far worse magic diversity.

OH !! I forgot your best mages die like flies from old age.(but you cab burn 120 points to "solve" the problem)

Ah, they've got spiders. Original and sometimes usefull (versus small elite groups)