Conceptual Balance Series (Mod)

[Nerfix]

Also, how about making the Clam cost more in water and add some astral to the requirement too?

[Saber Cherry]

Then it can't get poisoned, hurt, or repelled from head-butting. Only things with length, or armored things (like horns and scorpion stingers) should have length > 0.

[Graeme Dice]

Saber Cherry said:
Then it can't get poisoned, hurt, or repelled from head-butting.

That would be the point, if it's going to be as good as wing buffet currently is.

Only things with length, or armored things (like horns and scorpion stingers) should have length > 0.

Or wing buffet, which repels pretty much everything other than pikes and lances.

[Turin]

I have made a modified blackunitview map containing all the units zen has changed in his spell mod. That hopefully helps to make comparisons easier.

[PDF]

Myself I just don't like the -10 damage "trick". Instead of being exceptionnally good Lifedrain weapons become near useless, and everyone will switch to Duskdagger+Sword of Quickness or whatever combo instead. Up to the time when someone will mod Duskdagger to be dam 2 nostr and Sword of quickness 4W !
Bloodthorn as a Blood booster but useless weapon is fine.

Arralen, I'm not that sure STR30+ SC are that common.
In fact only few Pretenders have that level, even Demons/Devils are in the 20s...

[YellowCactus]

Hmm...Guess I'll have to just tough it out!
-yc

[WraithLord]

Can anyone tell me where can I find the info on the new scales (the new numbers that is)?

[Turin]

it´s in the dm file:

#deathincome 4 -------> means one scale of growth(death) raises(lowers) income by 4%.

#deathdeath 3 --------> means you get 0.3% more pop per turn per growth scale.

#slothincome 4 --------->means one scale of productivity(sloth) raises(lowers) income by 4%.

#slothresources 15--------->means one scale of productivity(sloth) raises(lowers) resources by 15%.

#misfortune 13------> one scale of luck makes a good event 13% more likely.

#eventisrare 20------> raises the chance that an event becomes a rare event.

[CUnknown]

About the spell mod and elementals:

I like the fact that elementals have been made cheaper to summon in combat; they're viable battlefield spells now. However, I worry that they may be too good, especially "living clouds/earth/water/fire" (the one that summons 4 elementals for still only 1 gem).

I think the normal elemental summoning should stay at 1 gem, but that living earth should be moved to 2 gems. That's still cheaper than it was in the original game. Also, it's still worthwile compared to the normal elemental summoning: that one summons 1 elemental for 1 gem. Living Earth summons 4 elementals for 2 gems, a nice x2 effect for your research investment. Right now in Zen's mod, it's a x4 effect, and that seems a little unbalanced.

But, I don't mind if it stays the way it is, if so I'll just continue to cast the crap out of it when I get the research level.

[Cainehill]

Seems about right - a level 8 research spell is supposed to have some oomph, not to mention that most nations aren't going to have a whole lot of mages that can cast it. The lower level versions, I generally wouldn't cast at all, unless maybe something desperate was going down : just not efficient to burn 1 gem per elemental.