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View Poll Results: What conceptual balance changes, specifically, make a negative impact?
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Changes to booster items and/or indy commanders (removed next version in any case).
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31 |
28.97% |
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Adding hoof and light lance attacks to light cavalry.
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5.61% |
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Higher research for forge of the ancients, more gems for tartarians.
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4.67% |
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Increased Prince of Death cost and Cyclops new path cost.
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5.61% |
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Magic scale back to dom2 settings.
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14.02% |
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Recruitable reanimators nerf (Lanka and ME Ermor).
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14.95% |
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Cost increases to helhirdlings, sacred van cavalry, shadow vestals, and palankasha.
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7.48% |
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T'ien Ch'i celestial masters should have 10 in every path.
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9.35% |
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Other (please specify).
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5.61% |
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None of the above.
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3.74% |
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December 23rd, 2007, 10:48 PM
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Re: Balance opinions II
High magic scales actually *do* give you more good events, or at least *better* events when your events are good, as several of the best events require magic.
But of course so does every other scale.
Personally, I think that magic-3 is *often* worth it at +2, and drain-3 is best avoided even at -2.
So we go from a situation where the magic scale only has four settings (+3,+1,-2,-3), to one where it only has 2 settings. It's just a wash, frankly, and I see no raeson to change things just for the fun of it.
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December 23rd, 2007, 11:18 PM
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Re: Balance opinions II
I rarely see anyone take drain 3 since drain 2 is just so much more efficient. I think everyone agreed that +1 per magic scale is more of a quickfix than anything since you essentially only had people taking m1 or d2, m3 rarely seen. There was nothing inherently bad with Magic 3 giving 3 rp's, it's much like order 3. Everyone took it cause it was good, the problemed lies in the fact that growth and sloth are not so great. Though growth is a little lame in that old age nations have to take it anyway.
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December 23rd, 2007, 11:36 PM
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Lieutenant General
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Re: Balance opinions II
Quote:
DrPraetorious said:
It's just a wash, frankly, and I see no raeson to change things just for the fun of it.
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I don't think it's much of a wash, you trade the scale having ~2 options (which in the end don't have all that much impact anyway) to ~1. In exchange, you eliminate the only bizarrely 'bumpy' scale, and reduce the power of extreme blesses which brings a whole range of new strategies into viability. |
December 23rd, 2007, 11:55 PM
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Re: Balance opinions II
I think that the change in CB, has the magic scale equal in importance to the order scale. Without CB, order 3 is almost automatic. But with it there is at least a tradoff between the order scale and the magic scale. That is for me, anyways.
Now if we could only get the other three scales to be just as important.
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