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[Zeldor]

Last time I had multiply domed province [1-2 fire domes, 2-3 air domes, 1-2 astral domes] some spells got through [I got message about fire dome killing enemy mages] but none of them went down.

[Gandalf Parker]

Im guessing that with Kristoffer doing most of the updates lately that the gameplay and mod wishlists will be be looked at more than maps and server wishlists.

[NTJedi]

Zeldor said:
Last time I had multiply domed province [1-2 fire domes, 2-3 air domes, 1-2 astral domes] some spells got through [I got message about fire dome killing enemy mages] but none of them went down.

The fire dome effect can still strike enemies without the spells penetrating the air and astral domes. Each dome is like a layer of cake... if they penetrate the fire dome they can still be stopped by the astral or air dome.

Based on the response from Micah it sounds like the domes need more testing. I'm sure if the multiple dome issue was fixed it'd be listed on the progress page or updated on the bug shortlist... no reason for Illwinter to secretly fix a major issue.

[Endoperez]

NTJedi said:
I'm sure if the multiple dome issue was fixed it'd be listed on the progress page or updated on the bug shortlist... no reason for Illwinter to secretly fix a major issue.

They can forget to list it, or it might have been fixed when they weren't updating the progress page. I didn't know it was a major issue, and I read almost everything that isn't in the MP subforum.

[NTJedi]

Endoperez said:
They can forget to list it, or it might have been fixed when they weren't updating the progress page.

My career has me work with developers and it's very unlikely for any developer to forget listing major fixes... yet I guess anything is possible.

Endoperez said:
I didn't know it was a major issue, and I read almost everything that isn't in the MP subforum.

Yes, major issue... as it's listed this way in the shortlist bug thread. (RED) Guess I read more than you. lol

[Kristoffer O]

> My career has me work with developers and it's very unlikely for any developer to forget listing major fixes... yet I guess anything is possible.

It is perfectly common to forget listing fixes. Major or Minor. We do it all the time. Actually remembering to document fixes is a lucky event Sometimes I have the update page up and ready, but most of the time I forget about it entirely. Then it suddenly pops up in my mind and I update whatever I can remember having done the last couple of hours or days. Quite unreliable.

[Zeldor]

But you still didn't say if it was fixed or not

[NTJedi]

Kristoffer O said:
It is perfectly common to forget listing fixes. Major or Minor. We do it all the time. Actually remembering to document fixes is a lucky event

To my knowledge it's never happened for any of the major companies where I've worked. Every bug is first tested for confirmation on being reproduced, then verified by another department which enters details into a database, then categorized in order of importance, then verified again by the QA department, then passed to a developer as a work task, then tested by QA again before finally being fixed. I realize Illwinter doesn't have these stages in place so maybe it is common for your team.

Kristoffer O said:
Sometimes I have the update page up and ready, but most of the time I forget about it entirely. Then it suddenly pops up in my mind and I update whatever I can remember having done the last couple of hours or days. Quite unreliable.

Someone in the community will eventually run some dome testing and we'll eventually know whether the dome issue was fixed. Let us know if there's anything we can do to help.

[thejeff]

Sure, if you're passed a list of fixes to make and you're being paid (or reviewed, etc) based on that list, you're going to make sure every thing is checked off.

All of these stages are in place because, when you let coders work on their own, they just make it work. They document little to nothing, usually as an afterthought, certainly not every stage of they way.

[Edi]

NTJedi said:
My career has me work with developers and it's very unlikely for any developer to forget listing major fixes... yet I guess anything is possible.

You have no idea how often an exchange between me and IW has been like this:

IW: *reading bug shortlist* Wasn't this fixed already three patches ago?
Me: When? Nobody told me it had even been looked at and it's not on the progress page... *goes off to greenify list entry*