Mictlan early age prophet query

[vfb]

What are the disadvantages of making the scout your prophet? That's what I usually do, and I'm curious if there's a reason I shouldn't.

[Dedas]

vfb said:
What are the disadvantages of making the scout your prophet? That's what I usually do, and I'm curious if there's a reason I shouldn't.

You might have seen all the other bonuses a prophet gets? For instance greater health and MR etc. all based on dominion.
So if you can recruit a "thuggable" commanders you can make him even better. He also "carries" with him dominion into enemy land making him an ideal conquerer.

[ano]

Dedas said:

You might have seen all the other bonuses a prophet gets? For instance greater health and MR etc. all based on dominion.
So if you can recruit a "thuggable" commanders you can make him even better. He also "carries" with him dominion into enemy land making him an ideal conquerer.

Not with Mictlan))
I generally find a bad idea making a thug from your prophet because thug should normally be used for fighting in enemy dominions.
There's one more pro for making a prophet(upd. was "thug") from national Mictlan commander - they've got forest survival and indy commander hasn't. I played early Mictlan before 3.10 and then indy commander as a prophet seemed to be a good idea.

[Dedas]

I never wrote that you should make a prophet thug from a recruitable Mictlan commander. I just answered his question in general.

Also, having your prophet spearheading an assault into enemy dominion could be advantageous as you get the dominion bonus from the province you attack from. Then you have to withdraw him or start preaching in the newly taken province of course.

[ano]

I didn't say you wrote so)) You wrote about making a thug from prophet in general and I said I find this a rather bad idea. Even if you attack from the friendly province, you will get more hp temporarily but other stats affected by dominion will be lowered (strength and mr) and that's not good at all. Also, regeneration rate will be based on your hp that you SHOULD have in the province and not on the hp you actually have (the difference is considered some leftover bonus). And the same thing with affliction chance.

[ano]

Oops, Dedas, I see why you misunderstood me. I said "making a thug from national Mictlan commander" but meant "making a prophet"
Sorry))

[Dedas]

Aha, my fault.
And I have to say I mostly agree with you as well, those are good points. Although in some cases it could be nice to have a thug prophet, at least for defense and border preaching.

[vfb]

I've made a Black Servant my first prophet before, when I have good starting death gem income. You get reanimation too, as a bonus. He's a pretty decent thug early on if you can give him some armor, and if you have a nice bless.

[ano]

vfb said:
What are the disadvantages of making the scout your prophet? That's what I usually do, and I'm curious if there's a reason I shouldn't.

No disadvantages and almost always I tend to do so. But the reason I don't make scout my prophet with Mictlan is that I can't benefit from stealthy dominion spread, because prophet is nothing more than priest. Also, scouts are rather rare in early era and that's another reason to let scout do his primary job and not support armies.