What do you like to do when you're not dead yet? - Page 2

Sombre · #1 January 8th, 2009, 12:02 PM

How do you harass someone after you've lost your castle and provinces? You're dead.

Gandalf Parker · #2 January 8th, 2009, 12:06 PM

Not if you still have dominion and clerics, and can keep a steady snatch/pillage going on his provinces.

Sombre · #3 January 8th, 2009, 12:31 PM

Oh I didn't realise you could survive as long as you have dominion. I thought 0 provinces 0 forts would do it.

Gandalf Parker · #4 January 8th, 2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sombre

Oh I didn't realise you could survive as long as you have dominion. I thought 0 provinces 0 forts would do it.

Stealth preachers is probably an important factor as I was doing it. The game seems to declare you dead when it feels you cannot recover. For nations with no stealth preacher already purchased and active then losing your last province would probably be the nail on the coffin.

JimMorrison · #5 January 8th, 2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sombre

Oh I didn't realise you could survive as long as you have dominion. I thought 0 provinces 0 forts would do it.

Stealth preachers is probably an important factor as I was doing it. The game seems to declare you dead when it feels you cannot recover. For nations with no stealth preacher already purchased and active then losing your last province would probably be the nail on the coffin.

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XXXX, the god of XXXX has been permanently vanquished, at the end he did not rule a single province, and he now has nowhere to return.

I suppose due to the wording, there is the slight chance that a stealthy pretender could survive beyond this exact point, as long as they were physically alive - but other than the Lord of Night (sic?), are there any others?

Amorphous · #6 January 8th, 2009, 06:25 PM

I try to stay true to the disposition of the pretender - meaning that it entirely depends on how I have chosen to play till then.

A benevolent and good natured pretender will try to help a like minded pretender and try to secure future benefits for his believers. Pretenders of a generally evil disposition will mostly go for total annihilation of everything or spiting the major contributors to their downfall.

Most pretenders will fight to the bitter end as hope is usually the last thing lost.

In such cases I tend to try new and possibly strange ideas. Since all else failed, new thinking is obviously required.

Gandalf Parker · #7 January 8th, 2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison

I suppose due to the wording, there is the slight chance that a stealthy pretender could survive beyond this exact point, as long as they were physically alive - but other than the Lord of Night (sic?), are there any others?

I was using Lord of the Wild which is one of my favorites.
Ghost King, Vampire Queen, Master Druid are all standard to all nations I think.

Darkwind · #8 January 8th, 2009, 07:14 PM

I've tended to go down to the last man in the (admittedly few) MP games I've played. Though, in all of them I somehow managed to end with a war with THE big player or A big player. I don't think I'd ever go AI though. Trying to deal massive damage (giant enemy crab!) is really fun. I'll probably end up experimenting too. Will this formation of 50 researchers, all set to Cast Generic Fireball Compensation actually stop the enemy army? How much damage could it do? Would it be more effective if I gave them Fire Swords, mass buffs and set them to "Charge of the Unarmored Brigade"?

Oh man, now I actually want to do this stuff.

thejeff · #9 January 8th, 2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison

I suppose due to the wording, there is the slight chance that a stealthy pretender could survive beyond this exact point, as long as they were physically alive - but other than the Lord of Night (sic?), are there any others?

I was using Lord of the Wild which is one of my favorites.
Ghost King, Vampire Queen, Master Druid are all standard to all nations I think.

I just ran a quick test game with Helheim, taking no provinces and letting the AI take my capital, while sneaking all my commanders and troops off into his lands.

As soon as I lost the capital, it was game over.

As far as I can tell, you need to hold one province at all times.

Gandalf Parker · #10 January 9th, 2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison

XXXX, the god of XXXX has been permanently vanquished, at the end he did not rule a single province, and he now has nowhere to return.

You are right.
Serves me right for not keeping my tactics list up to date.

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* Dominion sometimes spread in incorrect ways, fixed.

Thanks again Johan.

I just did a test game and Im not even sure how the game ended. I had hidden preachers all over the place with many of my candles showing, still had my god and my castle. But the game suddenly declared a winner. Seems like it might be over-corrected but I will need to try it more times first.