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		FWIW, it was a Mictlan Thelepuchi trying to assassinate an Argatha Marble Oracle. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Do you have the debug log for that still around? If you do, please send it to Illwinter (address in the shortlist thread) along with a link to this discussion thread so JK can take a look at it. This is something that needs his attention, given what you've told me. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Sorry, that's from a game almost a year ago.  I looked and I don't still have it.  I suppose there's a slim chance Ano might have it as it's his Oracle I was trying to assassinate. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Well, setting up a test with a map file and the debug mod would not be too difficult if you have the time and the inclination to do so. You could also do multiple runs of the same combat, which would give more statistical reliability. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I can do it. What's the setup we want? Elf Banes + fire 9 blesS? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Interestingly, I did find the turn immediately before the battle in question archived in my email so I know exactly how things were set up.  Attatched.  It's in province 143, an assassination attempt by Cihuacoatl the Tlahuelpuchi against the lone Marble Oracle SC (fire brand, vine shield, dragon helm, robe of shadows, boots of quickness, ring of the warrior, lucky pendant....ethereal, fire immune, and lucky, a lot of stuff going on).  I guess I was wrong, there was a shroud of the battle saint and a 9f 9s 4b blessing, assassin equipped with shroud, elf bane, and precious (bogus' ring).  'course I'm gonna feel like a dumbass if my memory from a year ago is wrong... 
 
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		I'd be interested to see the results with and without the fire bless. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		the thing is the fire bless should only interfere w/ the secondary effects, not w/ the primary damage.  something interesting may be going on    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Err...getting an error trying to attach the file, PM me an email address if anybody wants me to send it. 
			
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		Here's the turn file showing exactly what was set up. 
		
	
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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