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				 Re: Kaleva, Songs of Sorcery  -  0.85 released 
 
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					Originally Posted by Lingchih  Still working on this Endo? I'd like to test out the revisions. |  Waiting for inspiration, i.e. more talk on the mod thread.    
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					Originally Posted by HoneyBadger  Honestly, when I finally get a computer (and I am getting closer), this will be the first mod, other than my own for balancing reasons, that I'll try. It's also inspired me to actually read the Kalevala-something that never really entered into the crosshairs of my perception, before this came out-so you're doing a fantastic job. |  This is quite a compliment. Thanks!
 
I think I'll update the unit numbers for the next version. I'll increase all of them by 1000, so that there won't be any complications with old mods (there was that one strange report of a hunter-commander having lots of magic). I'll also do an updated version with old unit-nrs, so that you can continue existing games.
 
I don't have any new content to add, but I'll do some fine-tuning. The cost-changes mentioned before, proper flag, proper descriptions for the nation and heroes, perhaps some new graphics. If my sprite-making skills have mysteriously improved, Väinämöinen will remind you about Gallen-Kallela's painting about the defence of the Sampo. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Kaleva, Songs of Sorcery  -  0.85 released 
 Good luck on the inspirational talk...comments come kind of slow for most mod nations, and helpful ones even slower    I'm thinking about offering free beer and a buffet over at my threads.
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 Hmmm... I downloaded the mod, but trying to run a game as Kaleva crashes Dominions 3. What gives?  
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				 Re: Kaleva, Songs of Sorcery  -  0.85 released 
 I hear you Honey, luckily I have the great and revered Rdonj supporting my thread with loads of balance feedback (which is what I want most)
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				 Re: Kaleva, Songs of Sorcery  -  0.85 released 
 I can't get much feedback on mind-I don't know why? Maybe because they're not quite playable yet. I guess that's reasonable, although I'd rather fix problems and tweak things as much as possible *before* I'm done, than after, because it allows me to shift the whole style of the mod, if necessary, to make things fit more smoothly into the theme, rather than trying to patch and shoehorn after it's done. 
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 Being playable is a definite plus for feedback.  It's hard to really get a good feel for a nation without being able to play it, it's much more enjoyable driving your enemies before you than trying to figure out which set of numbers is better than the other.  Fixing and tweaking things before they're done is a good approach, but it doesn't leave a lot of room for feedback.
 I think the best way to get feedback is to have a good description of the mod, a sprite gallery and detailed updates.  And a playable mod, of course.  Works for me anyway.
 
 
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 Well, like I said, I do understand it, and I don't honestly expect more feedback than I've gotten-that's hard to get with complete mods-I'm just saying that it's less than I wish it was. 
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					Originally Posted by Edi  You need to tell us what kind of error it gives you. Can't do anything without knowing that. |  I would if I could, but there's no error message. The window just disappears, followed by the standard crash reporting thing.
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					Originally Posted by okiN  I would if I could, but there's no error message. The window just disappears, followed by the standard crash reporting thing. |  That'd be the Windows "this program has crashed, do you want to send Microsoft information that might..." crash report, right? 
 
I can't do anything without more information. Have you tried generating the debug log? Run Dominions from a shortcut, and add -dd after c:\path\dom3.exe. If there are spaces in the path, you should add quotes, like this:
 
"c:\path\dominions 3\dom3.exe" -dd 
 
IIRC, that's how the quotes should be. I can't check it out right now. 
EDIT: Oh, and the debug will generate a log.txt file with lots of information. If you don't find anything relevant there, feel free to attach it here, or perhaps to a bug thread.
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