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Old October 10th, 2007, 07:55 AM

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Default Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?

Fighting niefelheim in the late stages of the game is no real issue. The problem is if they come gunning for you early, you simply cannot stop that.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 08:19 AM

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Default Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?

And now with Fomoria, even the water nations aren't safe from a regenerating giant rush.

Fomorian Giants have javelins, too... range 24 damage 27 javelins. Very nasty (although the long range and fomorians' 8 prec does lead to a lot of scatter, most humans won't survive even one hit).
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Old October 10th, 2007, 08:41 AM

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Do fomorian giants have chill 15 too?...
Regenerating giants arent a problem absolutely, stacking chill is. And then there are recruitable SCs, and goddamn scary ones too. With right mages to equip them.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?

No, Fomorians don't have chill aura.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 09:52 AM

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Then Fomorians arent half as bad.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 10:29 AM

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Regenerating giants arent a problem absolutely, stacking chill is. And then there are recruitable SCs, and goddamn scary ones too. With right mages to equip them.
Yes, I tried it once and my 2 paralyzed niefel jarls killed an army just thanks to chill (+ regeneration but it was hardly useful) (I had put them some more chill with the appropriate armor and spells). Just standing there paralysed, they killed a whole army which tried to come nearby.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?

High chill effect is very nasty but so is high heat aura. It is interesting to watch Abysia and Niefelheim clash as they both give each other massive fatigue.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:11 PM

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Default Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?

How about killing the giants with fatigue damaging spells ? there is quite a few that cannot be resisted. And some summons damage fatigue (that elfshoot from the faeries, summonable via faerie court and another lower level spell).

Hold off the giants with chaff (preferably undead and even better ethereal undead) to get extra time and tire them up. Once over 100 fatigue they will die very quickly.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:40 PM

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Skelly spam will defeat them unless the giants have a high earth bless. WRT. Evocations flame blot is probably the best choice and it is very low level.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: How do you fight the Niefel giants?

Niefel Giants with a good bless are tough, but Niefelheim has an enormous weakness. It's PD isn't worth a pebble at a quarry. Attack on mulitple fronts and make his economy cry. And the stronger his bless, the more likely they sacrificed positive scales to achieve it.

As how to beat the giants with troops, I find Barbarians are a good unit to amass and charge with. They do high damage, which is key, and are ulimately disposable. Obviously, try to fight him in warmer provinces, as the chill bonuses to the N. G. can be quite effective.
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