Mod: Ermor - The Restoration - Draft v0.75

[hnchrist3]

Wow.

As an LA-Ermor convert, I don't know what to say.

Given that, in other threads, LA-Ermor and LA-R'lyeh rank as the (muddy) #1/#2 powers, it is probably unwise to introduce them to the Middle Age.

To form an analogy from Dickens:
An ant is what it is, and a grasshopper is what it is, and Christmas is a humbug.
LA-Ermor is what it is, and LA-R'lyeh is what it is, and mixing ages is <freaking crazy>!

Are your really serious? Taking one of the most feared age/nations and moving it DOWN one? In its own age it is difficult to deal with, what chance have these mortals against it as literal amateurs?
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As an LA-Ermor enthusiast, I humbly suggest you disband the thought as, anyone with Ermor prowress WILL conqueror the world.
Necessarily.
Work it out. Who can resist?
{Ermor's recent kill ratio/fix helps it along particularly in earlier ages. "Earlier=Weaker" and its new kill ratio makes Ermor unsurmountable in earlier ages.}
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If I am wrong, feel free to chastise me.
Understand that I have been playing LA-Ermor for over a year.

In this thread I want to emphasize that LA-Ermor has NO PLACE in earlier ages, as in its own place it is difficult enough to deal with.
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Faithfully submitted,
HNC3.

[Sensori]

What? MA is the closest to what Dominions 1 was like. With this mod, it'll be even closer to it.

Yay for "everyone gang up on Ermor!", D1 style!

[Endoperez]

Middle has MORE magic than Late. Middle has easier access to cheap, unarmoured archers than Late. Middle has easier access to decent low-resource cost infantry, although that varies from nation to nation. Middle has less Death magic than Late, which does hurt a bit, but then again EVERYONE will gang up on Ermor, if only to get the death gems that will enable them to get access to Death magic.

Some nations have lots more trouble against Ermor than others, but that's also true in LA. MA Ulm especially will have trouble killing the spawn fast enough before it gets Blade Wind, and there are some other nations that will have trouble, like Kailasa which also has very weak priests.

[Cerlin]

Couldnt Kailasa just spam Solar Rays (I think its the zombie killer?) That one works amazing, especially in communion. I used it LA with Bogarus before and its amazing. Verses Ermor that is.

[vfb]

MA TC, Marignon, Pythium, Mictlan, Rlyeh can all spam banishment in a communion. That's even more effective than Solar Rays. It's zero fatigue, so the slaves never get tired and can cast their own Banishments too. If you want you can throw in a couple of Mind Burning masters too, to fry the commanders if Ermor forgot to bring ghouls.

[Edi]

hnchrist3 said:
Given that, in other threads, LA-Ermor and LA-R'lyeh rank as the (muddy) #1/#2 powers, it is probably unwise to introduce them to the Middle Age.

Ever played Dom2 against Ashen Empire? It's quite beatable in MA.

hnchrist3 said:
Are your really serious? Taking one of the most feared age/nations and moving it DOWN one? In its own age it is difficult to deal with, what chance have these mortals against it as literal amateurs?

Completely serious. See the suggestions posted by the worthies who responded to you earlier. Ashen Empire has been beaten many times before.

hnchrist3 said:
As an LA-Ermor enthusiast, I humbly suggest you disband the thought as, anyone with Ermor prowress WILL conqueror the world.
Necessarily.

Previous evidence disagrees with you. And I assure you I have absolutely no intention of abandoning this little mod project. None whatsoever.

hnchrist3 said:
If I am wrong, feel free to chastise me.
Understand that I have been playing LA-Ermor for over a year.

You happen to be wrong, because many people played against Ashen Empire in Dominions 2, where all we had were the Middle Era nations (mostly) and Ashen Empire was by no means unstoppable. I've been involved with Dominions for several years now, ever since Dominions - PPP, first as a player and mapmaker, then a community documenter and for the past year and change as the moderator in charge of the bug reporting in addition to doing the community documentation on my own. I have a fairly long experience of the game and of its various aspects, so I suggest that I do know what I'm doing with this project.

hnchrist3 said:
In this thread I want to emphasize that LA-Ermor has NO PLACE in earlier ages, as in its own place it is difficult enough to deal with.

I would like to emphasize that Illwinter Games, the developer of the game, disagrees with you. See Gath Dev Diary thread on the forum and Kristoffer's encouragement for this mod earlier in the thread. In addition, several longtime players who are veterans of countless MP games, also disagree with you and have the numbers and earlier experience to back up what they say.

All of that said, nice getting to know you. New faces are always welcome.

Just be prepared to have your viewpoints challenged if you present them as unequivocally as you do.