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geoschmo
March 11th, 2004, 07:53 PM
Mar 10, 2004 9:10:04 PM EST
Uploaded game turn (belisarius)
Mar 10, 2004 8:10:14 PM EST
Turn executed: 2403.0 (asmala)
Mar 10, 2004 8:10:10 PM EST
Beginning execution of next turn (asmala)
Mar 10, 2004 8:10:10 PM EST
Kicking off turn computation (narfpoitchezboom)
Mar 10, 2004 8:10:10 PM EST
Uploaded game turn (narfpoitchezboom)
Mar 10, 2004 7:37:48 PM EST
Uploaded game turn (belisarius)
Mar 10, 2004 7:26:39 PM EST
Turn executed: 2402.9 (asmala)
Mar 10, 2004 7:26:36 PM EST
Beginning execution of next turn (asmala)
Mar 10, 2004 7:26:36 PM EST
Kicking off turn computation (belisarius)
Mar 10, 2004 7:26:36 PM EST
Uploaded game turn (belisarius)
Mar 10, 2004 7:17:10 PM EST
Uploaded game turn (narfpoitchezboom)
Mar 10, 2004 7:00:13 PM EST
Turn executed: 2402.8 (asmala)


There were two turns about an hour apart. But you uploaded both times. From comparing the files it looks like you uploaded the same .plr file both times though. Did you walk away from your pc, or switch to a different window for a while, then come back and hit upload again thinking it hadn't taken the first time?

narf poit chez BOOM
March 11th, 2004, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by geoschmo:

There were two turns about an hour apart. But you uploaded both times. From comparing the files it looks like you uploaded the same .plr file both times though. Did you walk away from your pc, or switch to a different window for a while, then come back and hit upload again thinking it hadn't taken the first time? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">entirely possible, i was making a seige map for NWN in between and i've been pretty tired lately. so much so, in fact, that i'm going to talk to my docter about it.

narf poit chez BOOM
March 12th, 2004, 12:18 PM
and, to be more specific, would MB or Asmala mind if i asked for the turn to be turned back, please?

Fyron
March 12th, 2004, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
He also listened to Fyron a little too much. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Didn't deploy a single weapon platform. the result was my fleets running unchecked except by his fleets, while several of his fleets were bLasted apart by my platforms. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Uh huh. I never once said to not build any WPs, ever. I have indeed stated that a large fleet has no problem against WPs, but that does not mean that they are useless in 1 v 1 games or in the early game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Ragnarok
March 12th, 2004, 10:07 PM
Asmala,
Please put me back at the bottom. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
Joachim beat me in our KOTH match. It was a well played game on his part and I offer much kudos to him for that.

Phoenix-D
March 12th, 2004, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Uh huh. I never once said to not build any WPs, ever. I have indeed stated that a large fleet has no problem against WPs, but that does not mean that they are useless in 1 v 1 games or in the early game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't think turn 65 counts as "early game" any more. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif And define "large"..

Asmala
March 12th, 2004, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
and, to be more specific, would MB or Asmala mind if i asked for the turn to be turned back, please? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've no objections to roll back the turn if MB agrees.

Asmala
March 12th, 2004, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by Ragnarok:
Asmala,
Please put me back at the bottom. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
Joachim beat me in our KOTH match. It was a well played game on his part and I offer much kudos to him for that. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Done and Koth page is also updated.

Joachim
March 13th, 2004, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by Ragnarok:
Asmala,
Please put me back at the bottom. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
Joachim beat me in our KOTH match. It was a well played game on his part and I offer much kudos to him for that. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thnaks for the game. I was surprised you didn't push forward after killing my fleet at the warp point in the center south system - gave me enough time to recover and colonise all the systems south of there as well.

Thanks again.

Master Belisarius
March 13th, 2004, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by Asmala:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
and, to be more specific, would MB or Asmala mind if i asked for the turn to be turned back, please? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've no objections to roll back the turn if MB agrees. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have not problems.

Asmala
March 13th, 2004, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Asmala:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
and, to be more specific, would MB or Asmala mind if i asked for the turn to be turned back, please? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've no objections to roll back the turn if MB agrees. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have not problems. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Turn rolled back.

Alneyan
March 13th, 2004, 09:11 PM
Thanks for the answer Slynky, but I am afraid my warp openers are somehow unable to protect my worlds. My main concern is currently "how to pull out a nice offensive against Primitive to calm these rioters and to delay these fleets" rather than "how to protect these useless worlds busy rioting". While speaking of this game, here comes another game report, and likely the Last.

KOTH Primitive versus Alneyan, turn 75.

"As seen in Sapience, your best source of accurate information certified by the Arcadian Consulate:

While it is true that the League suffered from a few drawbacks, her plans backfiring and her armada being defeated thanks to treachery and perfidy, we should not have such a pessimistic outlook on the current situation. Never our values will be forsaken by our people, lest our society should crumble at the hands of these hordes.

Nevertheless, we should not put us behind the common masquerade in which the League stands free from all the threats she faces, but rather acknowledge these hard truths to face the foes bent on destroying our very civilization. If there were any doubt left about the motivation of our enemies, it has been cleared by the slaughter of one of our colony worlds, where several dozen thousand settlers were killed by orbital bombardments. Although our ships did manage to save most of the civilian population, often facing resolute enemy opposition, the casualties are inadmissible, and in the memory of all who fell to these Hordes, we shall strive to avenge them.

However, the rumours of other such battles have yet to be proven, and should dismissed as being insidious to the League. No other civilian life has been taken on the front, as our ships extracted all our people from the endangered worlds. Another deceitful lie dares questioning our beloved Consul, who has been supposedly departing to another galaxy in his private shuttle. Obviously, this is a blatant deception, as the Consul is, at the moment of the writing, devising a military plan along with the Admirals of the Fleet.

While speaking of the military situation, we have the pleasure of announcing the destruction of several key military installations of the Primitive Horde, which were qualified as being "decivise victories" by the High Command of the Second Battlegroup. "They are not invincible, and if we have the willpower, our ships can crush them, an hammer striking down their warships until there is nothing left of them but stellar dust," commented a cheerful Admiral Conceils after the recent victories.

Following these engagements, reinforcements have been sent to the borders to assist our forces in liberating the Primitive worlds from their heinous grasp. Once this deployment is achieved, two hundred warships will enforce our presence at our boundaries, and will swiftly strike home. Not only will we head for their obscure lair, but we do expect this offensive to deter them from ever threating the Arcadia League, as any sapient being would question the wisdom of fighting when one's own worlds are in jeopardy.

We bear no ill-will towards the civilians who happen to be amid the Primitive berserkers, and will endeavour to avoid any civilian casualty when attacking their systems. On the contrary, our forces stand ready to assist their population if needed be. *A few photos display Arcadian troops doing repairs to a collapsed building and handing food to civilians. But the vigilant reader may realize these pictures were taken several years ago in an Arcadian League*

While our state-of-the-art ships able to alter the essence of this universe protect our denizens by collapsing the "holes" used by the enemy forces to strike at our worlds, danger lurks at home as enemy operatives enticed our people into rebelling. Coercing our citizens into revolting, these traitorous spies managed to trigger riotings on several worlds, and strikes put an halt to all economical activity on many of our colonies. It is the duty of all responsible Arcadians not to take part in these disturbances, and any individual seen provoking such distractions should be mentioned to the nearest civil servant, representative for the Consulate.

Lastly, we do encourage all responsible and dutiful citizens to fight for the League in this hour of need. This is our finest hour, and those who aid Arcadia shall not be forgotten once our foes are placated. For her, we pledge to fight with all our might until no dagger lays in our back, biding its time to strike the League down. If even under such circumstances, you await for brighter times to come, when will you give this token of your gratitude to Arcadia? And once this war is over, how will you behave when paying your homages to these defenders, when meeting these brave souls who stood up to the Hordes, when speaking to your children about this war?"

Propaganda aside, here is the current situation: Half my worlds are rioting, Primitive has crushed a few of my fleets, and I managed to take a few of his worlds. (While he was capturing or glassing several planets a turn) So it is basically my Last stand against the Primitive Ones, as my research production is down to 50,000 research points a turn. (It should be above 200,000, if there were no riots. I gather you have figured out why I don't exactly like this situation? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

narf poit chez BOOM
March 14th, 2004, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by Asmala:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Asmala:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
and, to be more specific, would MB or Asmala mind if i asked for the turn to be turned back, please? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've no objections to roll back the turn if MB agrees. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have not problems. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Turn rolled back. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">huh. i got turn 32 sent again.

primitive
March 14th, 2004, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
huh. i got turn 32 sent again. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thats how it works. The turn numbers/file names from PBW has nothing to do with the game date/turn number http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

narf poit chez BOOM
March 14th, 2004, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by primitive:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
huh. i got turn 32 sent again. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thats how it works. The turn numbers/file names from PBW has nothing to do with the game date/turn number http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky
March 14th, 2004, 06:42 AM
Very nice update, Alneyan! As always, GOOD reading.

Yes, you should disregard what I have said about your game...sigh...looks like you are holding me up in our 2 x 2 game...I'm so far behind as to be embarrassed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif ( <--- that's the "embarrassed" emoticon...I should use it more often). Of course, THAT'S why I sucked you into the game...hehe...to boost my chances http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . And, you need a bit of full-tech experience to round out your abilities http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

Fyron
March 15th, 2004, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Uh huh. I never once said to not build any WPs, ever. I have indeed stated that a large fleet has no problem against WPs, but that does not mean that they are useless in 1 v 1 games or in the early game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't think turn 65 counts as "early game" any more. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif And define "large".. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Note the or there... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

100 ships (cruisers or so of non-early game technology) is decently large.

Joachim
March 15th, 2004, 10:01 AM
Heh ya Parabolize,

Are we rating our KOTH game? I'm happy to lose more points.

Good Luck

parabolize
March 15th, 2004, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Joachim:
Heh ya Parabolize,

Are we rating our KOTH game? I'm happy to lose more points.

Good Luck <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">sounds good to me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Alneyan
March 15th, 2004, 05:42 PM
KOTH Primitive versus Alneyan: In short, I have been utterly defeated, and surrender to Primitive at once. Put me back at the bottom of the hill Asmala, and ready yourself Ragnarok, for you shall fight against my Fool League and all my silliness!


As issued in Sapience: "The League made her Last stand, and performed her greatest victory of the whole war. Here is a report from the General Smashed-Handkerchief:

"Our fully trained fleet made an impressive performance for the worst battle in this conflict! Standing at a wormhole, with more warships than the opponent, our armada made the astounding feat of takind down no less than seven enemy battlecruisers! Your ears did not betray you, we took down seven invincible enemy ships! Our meagers forces composed of fourty odd warships, standing at such a strategical location, had not expected to do half as well, and the bets were on three enemy ships destroyed, four at the best.

Before this major victory, the spirits of the fleet were at their lowest when preliminary simulations reported a 73% chance of them winning the day without suffering a single loss. We have proven that treacherous statement to be ultimately wrong, as seven harbingers of our doom collapsed at the hand of our righteous men and women. With this victory to build up our trust, we can surely hope to stand up to the enemy fleet, and eventually drive them off from this galaxy. Henceforth, our Armada shall be known as the Seven Keepers in honour of this battle."

When asked about the consequences of this battle, and the enemy fleets marching on our worlds, the General merely replied that "'Tis is a trifling matter when we scored seven kills against the enemy warfleet! We have more pressing matters than the defence of our transient nation and its billion denizens, and we shall strive to launch another offensive with the intent of destroying at least two more enemy warships. This would bring their casulaties in this offensive wave to nine, and perhaps even ten, which is a perfectly fine record when you know they have two hundred warships at their disposal."

It is our sad duty to report the demise of our beloved General, which was disavowed for his word by the Consulate, and sent to the nearest blackhole for trial. As we are going to press, the Consulate has yet to issue a formal declaration to the League, but gossips alude to an unconditional surrender to the Primitive Horde after the loss of the Second and Third BattleGroups, while the Fourth Battlegroup is being involved in a fool's errand. We pray the gentle reader to forgive us, but with such rulers, this overthrow is no wonder. As for now, if you will, your most estimed servant will make a swift departure and will seek asylum somewhere else before the Wraiths of the League arrive."

[ March 15, 2004, 15:44: Message edited by: Alneyan ]

primitive
March 15th, 2004, 06:28 PM
Kudos to Alneyan for a great game (and great writing BTW). Those warppoints of his popping up early was a big suprise and scared the **** out of me. Luckily for me I had just enough ships to get him on the defence (and in happiness problems) instead of keeping up the offence. Also he never found the undefended and undefandable (doe to looong comunication lines) systems in the south http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Great fun. Always good to play someone who dare to do things different http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Electrum:
Then it us for a shot at the King. Any prefered settings, I am game for (almost) anything http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ragnarok
March 15th, 2004, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Alneyan:
KOTH Primitive versus Alneyan: In short, I have been utterly defeated, and surrender to Primitive at once. Put me back at the bottom of the hill Asmala, and ready yourself Ragnarok, for you shall fight against my Fool League and all my silliness!
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I...uhhh... well...I...I think I need a break, yeah, that's it, a break! Asmala, please take me off the hill.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

I'm only kidding of course. I am up to the challenge, I will more then likely lose but no doubt I will learn at least a small portion of something. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Alneyan
March 15th, 2004, 08:02 PM
Oh, do not forry, I am no Asmala, who should grasp his crown tightly lest it falls as the Primitive moves onward. Sometimes I play well, and more often than not an AI would have done a better job. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Do you have any preference about the settings? Besides suggesting PvK Balance Mod, which basically alters the costs needed to raise/lower characteristics and take advanced traits, I don't have any particular wish for this game.

Incidentally Primitive, I *had* to try something different to catch you off guard. The first part went rather well, but the actual application of this surprise could have been so much better. Good luck in going in for this crown, and Electrum, I wish you will give Primitive a better run for his money. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Ragnarok
March 15th, 2004, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Alneyan:

Do you have any preference about the settings? Besides suggesting PvK Balance Mod, which basically alters the costs needed to raise/lower characteristics and take advanced traits, I don't have any particular wish for this game. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No desired settings here. I don't have the PvK Balance Mod here at work so I will download it and be prepared to use it. Other then that default settings are fine for me.

Asmala
March 15th, 2004, 08:34 PM
Koth page is updated.

parabolize
March 16th, 2004, 04:34 AM
K.O.T.H. Parabolize vs Joachim

Ok I think we have a problem. The game was made in Balanced System Mod when all I wanted was the map made in Balanced System Mod. The mod was made in 1.84 and does not have the correct data files. I do not want to restart but I will if Joachim wants to. My mouse wheel works and I can save games thats all I care about http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

anyway Joachim play the game out of:
SE4 Version: v1.91 + Balanced System Mod 1.1

Joachim
March 16th, 2004, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by parabolize:
K.O.T.H. Parabolize vs Joachim

Ok I think we have a problem. The game was made in Balanced System Mod when all I wanted was the map made in Balanced System Mod. The mod was made in 1.84 and does not have the correct data files. I do not want to restart but I will if Joachim wants to. My mouse wheel works and I can save games thats all I care about http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

anyway Joachim play the game out of:
SE4 Version: v1.91 + Balanced System Mod 1.1 <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Huh???
So I need to download the Balance system mod and play with it and 1.91 for this Game? As if it wasn't hard enough switching between Versions and mods already http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

parabolize
March 16th, 2004, 05:15 AM
Yes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Joachim
March 16th, 2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by parabolize:
K.O.T.H. Parabolize vs Joachim

anyway Joachim play the game out of:
SE4 Version: v1.91 + Balanced System Mod 1.1 <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Played first turn OK, second turn has the invalid data file problem. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

parabolize
March 16th, 2004, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Joachim:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by parabolize:
K.O.T.H. Parabolize vs Joachim

anyway Joachim play the game out of:
SE4 Version: v1.91 + Balanced System Mod 1.1 <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Played first turn OK, second turn has the invalid data file problem. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The 2nd turn works in v1.91! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif
Should I be thanking a admin?

geoschmo
March 16th, 2004, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by parabolize:
The 2nd turn works in v1.91! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif
Should I be thanking a admin? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nope. Ok, here's what happened guys.

You were correct Parabolize, Version 1.91 had some data file changes unrelated to the Balanced system mod. Components file, facilities file, and Fyron's "Smooth pop Modifiers" were added to settings.txt. Because of this games created with Balanced Mod Version 1.1 will not work in "Host only" mode for Version 1.91 games.

Your game is fine. All that happened was on the first turn there were some minor discrepancies between the stock 1.84 data in the mod that Asmala used to setup the first turn of the game, and the stock 1.91 data that you guys were using to try and play the first turn. Loading the mod as you did was fine, and avoided having to do a restart. Once you both uploaded, PBW used the stock 1.91 files to process the turn so now you need to use 1.91 to play turn 2 and all the turns from here on.

I have updated the Balanced System Mod so that this does not happen again. This new Version 1.2 corrects the problem by incorporating the 1.91 data file changes into the mod. Version 1.2 is otherwise identical to Version 1.1

HERE'S A LINK TO DOWNLOAD THE MOD. (http://seiv.pbw.cc/Download/filelib/956/BalancedSystemMod12.zip)

As long as the proper Version is used by the game owner when creating the first turn, the mod will be useable as a host only mod, that is, only needed to setup the map on the first turn and not needed by the players at all.

For games started with Version 1.84, use Balanced System Mod Version 1.1

For games started with Version 1.91, use Balanced System Mod Version 1.2

As long as the game owner follows this protocol, the players will not need to have the mod and should notice no difference from a stock game, other then having a balanced map.

Sorry for the inconveinence. I missed this when 1.91 came out, I should have been prepared for this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Geoschmo

[ March 16, 2004, 18:04: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

parabolize
March 16th, 2004, 08:39 PM
Geoschmo thank you for upgrading the mod http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Alneyan
March 16th, 2004, 09:15 PM
Would anyone happen to have some free time to set up a map for Ragnarok and myself in our KOTH game? I will let the map size and type up to you Ragnarok if you have any preference in this field.

However, using a third party map will also deny me my so common excuse, the usual "The map wasn't balanced! The map was balanced against me! It was a treacherous plot to bring me down!", so I will be lacking a proper scapegoat, which cannot answer back. How annoying. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Joachim
March 17th, 2004, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by geoschmo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by parabolize:
The 2nd turn works in v1.91! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif
Should I be thanking a admin? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nope. Ok, here's what happened guys.

You were correct Parabolize, Version 1.91 had some data file changes unrelated to the Balanced system mod. Components file, facilities file, and Fyron's "Smooth pop Modifiers" were added to settings.txt. Because of this games created with Balanced Mod Version 1.1 will not work in "Host only" mode for Version 1.91 games.

Sorry for the inconveinence. I missed this when 1.91 came out, I should have been prepared for this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Geoschmo </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No need to apologise http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif finding little bugs is what we players a meant to do! Thanks for fixing the mod and uploading.

Electrum
March 18th, 2004, 01:09 AM
RE: Electrum v Primitive

Primitive
My Last turn came out funky. It's as though I missed a turn. Would it be ok if we do a roll-back?

Ragnarok
March 18th, 2004, 02:25 AM
Size of the map does not matter to me. The average setting (small?), if not slightly bigger, would be fine with me.

I wouldn't worry Alneyan, I'm sure you can find any excuse to blame your impending loss on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif I just wish I could say that with confidence. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ March 17, 2004, 13:21: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

Electrum
March 18th, 2004, 04:17 AM
Asmala,

Would you please roll back th Electrum v Primitive game. Primitive has given me his official Okie Dokie.

narf poit chez BOOM
March 18th, 2004, 10:14 AM
MB, today i've been dealing with a headache and tommorrow i'm going to be gone from the house for about 6 hours, after which, the way things have been going, i may have a headache. so, i really hope you don't mind, but our game might be on hold till friday. sorry.

Atrocities
March 18th, 2004, 10:57 AM
Has it been considered to have a KOTH for mods?

geoschmo
March 18th, 2004, 12:54 PM
Not sure what you mean At. You can play Koth games with mods now. You just have to agree to it with your opponent. Any of the default Koth settings can be changed if the players agree to it.

If you mean a separate Koth with some particular Mod as teh default, that would be kind of difficult. You probably couldn't get enough people willing to play all their games with one mod.

Slynky
March 18th, 2004, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by geoschmo:
Not sure what you mean At. You can play Koth games with mods now. You just have to agree to it with your opponent. Any of the default Koth settings can be changed if the players agree to it.

If you mean a separate Koth with some particular Mod as teh default, that would be kind of difficult. You probably couldn't get enough people willing to play all their games with one mod. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If I understand Attrocities correctly, I suspect he's suggesting some sort of KOTH mod. Surely, KOTH is the most successful and longest-running competition there is (or has been). Though not sure what aspects a mod could take on for KOTH but perhaps a mod (not that I know much about such things) that incorporates the most widely-requested settings and preferences.

Or, I could be just wrong... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif

Asmala
March 18th, 2004, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Electrum:
Asmala,

Would you please roll back th Electrum v Primitive game. Primitive has given me his official Okie Dokie. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Done.

Electrum
March 18th, 2004, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by Asmala:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Electrum:
Asmala,

Would you please roll back th Electrum v Primitive game. Primitive has given me his official Okie Dokie. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Done. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I downloaded the turn, and it's still 2400.5, it should be 2400.4.
Thanks for your help.

geoschmo
March 19th, 2004, 02:27 AM
That may be what he meant. I would have expected him to say mod for Koth instead of Koth for mods if that is what he meant though. I guess we'll have to wait for him to explain. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

narf poit chez BOOM
March 19th, 2004, 05:20 AM
Originally posted by Atrocities:
Has it been considered to have a KOTH for mods? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">i think he meant a KOTH league for various mods and was simply tired.

Phoenix-D
March 19th, 2004, 05:44 PM
Asmala, would you mind deleting Phoenix-D vs Katchoo? The game has been over for a while.

Asmala
March 19th, 2004, 07:32 PM
Electrum: Should work now. I thought if I change the name of the get turn link to previous turn I'd get it. Now I examined the file I noticed it was the newest turn, only name was changed.

Phoenix-D: It's deleted now.

Phoenix-D
March 19th, 2004, 07:37 PM
Thanks.

Electrum
March 19th, 2004, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Asmala:
Electrum: Should work now. I thought if I change the name of the get turn link to previous turn I'd get it. Now I examined the file I noticed it was the newest turn, only name was changed.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Works great!
Thanks Loads

narf poit chez BOOM
March 20th, 2004, 06:50 AM
well, for a game report from me and MB, we recently made contact. no conflict yet, but i'm very nervious.

Electrum
March 21st, 2004, 05:35 AM
Asmala,

I have another request. I just noticed that balanced mod systems don't like "none" planets. Like a knob, that's what I took http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif . Priative has agreed to a restart, if you would be so kind.
Thanks

Asmala
March 21st, 2004, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Electrum:
Asmala,

I have another request. I just noticed that balanced mod systems don't like "none" planets. Like a knob, that's what I took http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif . Priative has agreed to a restart, if you would be so kind.
Thanks <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No problem but, naturally, I'd need a new empire file from you.

Electrum
March 21st, 2004, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Asmala:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Electrum:
Asmala,

I have another request. I just noticed that balanced mod systems don't like "none" planets. Like a knob, that's what I took http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif . Priative has agreed to a restart, if you would be so kind.
Thanks <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No problem but, naturally, I'd need a new empire file from you. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sent it E-mail.

Asmala
March 21st, 2004, 09:18 PM
The game is restarted. Hopefully everything is OK now.

Electrum
March 21st, 2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Asmala:
The game is restarted. Hopefully everything is OK now. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks alot A

Iansidious
March 23rd, 2004, 11:31 PM
Ok. I lost to gravey101. No big deal. I had fun. I came I played I lost I learned. Asmala I am ready for a new enemy. So bring it on!

gravey101
March 24th, 2004, 12:46 AM
thanks for the game lansidious... 'til next time.

[ March 23, 2004, 22:48: Message edited by: gravey101 ]

gravey101
March 24th, 2004, 12:47 AM
oops, double post.

[ March 23, 2004, 22:48: Message edited by: gravey101 ]

Asmala
March 24th, 2004, 04:43 PM
Koth page is updated.

Cheeze
March 26th, 2004, 06:22 AM
Cheeze vs Slynky: turn 89

Slynky wins. We started by agreeing to make the skill involving more planning and variety. So neither of us took the bezerker handicap or raised aggressiveness above Average. I took Oranic and Advanced Storage. We met somewhere around turn 30. Slynky had Ancient Race, so he merely had to build up sufficient force and beeline to my homeworld. My Last fleet just died going through a warp point, so the game is done.

Congratulations Slynky and good luck up the hill!!

Asmala, take me off the hill. I am taking a break and cutting down on my SEIV games. Focusing my addiction on fewer games. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Slynky
March 27th, 2004, 05:20 AM
Originally posted by Cheeze:
Cheeze vs Slynky: turn 89

Slynky wins. We started by agreeing to make the skill involving more planning and variety. So neither of us took the bezerker handicap or raised aggressiveness above Average. I took Oranic and Advanced Storage.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Perplexing game, Cheese. I never saw an organic component from you. Also, I settled in a system that was the 8th jump from my home system at the same time as you settled in it and it was 3 jumps from your home system. And, in another system, I settled which was the 6th jump from my system and 2 jumps from your home system. I realize you had to explore and I knew where to go but I had to halt on the way, waiting for a refuling point to be built. I think you should have expanded better than you did.

Anyway, you played with a strong heart till the Last hope was gone.

Cheeze
March 27th, 2004, 06:50 AM
I have to build resupply Posts too, only I don't know what's in the next systems. And there were enough empty and nebula systems to really hold my progress. But not an unbalanced map, as far as I could tell.
I didn't see any reason to research organic. When you demanded my surrender around turn 40 I figured I was done inside of a year. I searched out as quickly as I could, since I was feeling my way around the galaxy. If I had known it was going to take another 5 years, I'd have lost with more variety. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ March 27, 2004, 04:56: Message edited by: Cheeze ]

Asmala
March 27th, 2004, 09:32 PM
Koth page is updated.

Cheeze, I took you off the Hill. Welcome back when you've time again.

parabolize
March 28th, 2004, 12:34 PM
K.O.T.H. Parabolize vs Joachim
Turn number: 2407.3
I surrender!
He expanded East faster than I did and slowly outproduced me because of it.
Slynky list this as a rated game.

Joachim
March 28th, 2004, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by parabolize:
K.O.T.H. Parabolize vs Joachim
Turn number: 2407.3
I surrender!
He expanded East faster than I did and slowly outproduced me because of it.
Slynky list this as a rated game. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks for the good game - and the turn rate! You really had me worried with the first rush of CVs. Had you been able to push just a little further...
Only four jumps bewteen home systems is Scary http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Wow, I'm getting dizzy up here - what a view! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Alneyan
March 28th, 2004, 12:46 PM
Asmala, would it be possible to have a restart for the Ragnarok/Alneyan KOTH game? The map was biased against him, as he is basically boxed into the North East corner, while I am a bit more to the South than him. So a restart does seem in order, and he agreed to it in-game. Thanks!

Electrum
March 28th, 2004, 10:31 PM
Re: Electrum v Primative

The Electrum surrenders.
Thanks for the exciting game. How did you feel about the balanced mod? I thought it worked well

Electrum
March 28th, 2004, 10:35 PM
Asmala,

Please put me back at the bottom.

primitive
March 29th, 2004, 12:11 AM
Thanks for a fun game Electrum.

Dunno if I like the balance mod though. It takes away a lot of the excitement of the exploring part, but on the other hand it reduces micromangement a lot. Guess the mod is OK for a few games , but I would not like to play all my games with this mod http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Asmala, Spoon: Is the King game still running ?
Don't dent that crown http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Slynky
March 29th, 2004, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by primitive:
Thanks for a fun game Electrum.

Dunno if I like the balance mod though. It takes away a lot of the excitement of the exploring part, but on the other hand it reduces micromangement a lot. Guess the mod is OK for a few games , but I would not like to play all my games with this mod http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Asmala, Spoon: Is the King game still running ?
Don't dent that crown http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Congrats to the "steamroller"! He's tough, electrum...I know, I'm 2-dimensional, too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

spoon
March 29th, 2004, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by primitive:
Asmala, Spoon: Is the King game still running ?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">We're taking a break at the moment, but should be back at it this week, I believe.

Slynky
March 29th, 2004, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by spoon:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by primitive:
Asmala, Spoon: Is the King game still running ?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">We're taking a break at the moment, but should be back at it this week, I believe. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hey, Spoon, you need to take a look at the "King Of The Hill Manual For Game Updates" book... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

This falls quite short of what some of us are looking for... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

spoon
March 29th, 2004, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Slynky:
Hey, Spoon, you need to take a look at the "King Of The Hill Manual For Game Updates" book...This falls quite short of what some of us are looking for... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sorry! How's this:
-----

It was Ensign Mudlark's first appointment to a ship larger than the spawning bed he was born in. The excitement he felt in his gizzard was amplified by the gravitational vortices put out by the classified warp nexus his ship was stationed over. Ensign Mudlark knew his ship was playing the waiting game for an opponent so vile, that the official orders from Wormus Prime were for all unarmed ships to immediately engage and ram the nearest enemy vessel. The Wormlings haven't resorted to such things since the war leading up to the Great Slynkian Brainfeast of 2142. Such thoughts brought Ensign Mudlark's mind back to the tunnels of his youth, where he hoped one day to return triumphant and claim a plot of soil for his own.

Suddenly, the calm of Ensign Mudlark's ready room was shattered by the piercing wail of the lower deck klaxons! He was being summoned to duty! Mudlark dashed to his equipment locker with the urgency of a wartime hero and flashed his badge over the security screen. A few seconds later, he was bound to the lower deck mess, with his weapon in hand: the top-of-the-line Specular Vacu-mop 3500. Whatever it was that spilled down there would be cleaned up before the Wormlord Shipadmiral even caught scent of it.

And so Ensign Mudlark's ship would remain clean, as the Wait continued.

primitive
March 30th, 2004, 12:33 AM
LOL http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Slynky
March 30th, 2004, 12:35 AM
Oh, GOOD one, master Spoon, GOOD one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

Ragnarok
March 30th, 2004, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by Alneyan:
Asmala, would it be possible to have a restart for the Ragnarok/Alneyan KOTH game? The map was biased against him, as he is basically boxed into the North East corner, while I am a bit more to the South than him. So a restart does seem in order, and he agreed to it in-game. Thanks! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, I agreed to it.

Alneyan, sorry for not posting this myself. I had a super busy weekend that I was not expecting and was not able to get to the computer. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
Thanks for going ahead and doing this though.

Stone Mill
March 30th, 2004, 10:34 PM
Asmala,

What is considered the default Version for new KOTH SEIV Gold games at this point?

If it is 1.91, might you want to edit that on your rules page?

Thanks
Stoney

Baron Grazic
March 31st, 2004, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by Stone Mill:
Asmala,

What is considered the default Version for new KOTH SEIV Gold games at this point?

If it is 1.91, might you want to edit that on your rules page?

Thanks
Stoney <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So when can we expect King Stone Mill make his way back up the hill? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Stone Mill
March 31st, 2004, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Stone Mill:
Asmala,

What is considered the default Version for new KOTH SEIV Gold games at this point?

If it is 1.91, might you want to edit that on your rules page?

Thanks
Stoney <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So when can we expect King Stone Mill make his way back up the hill? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Actually... I am quite inspired by a movie... you may have seen it...

Return of the King!

Heh heh http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I think I'm getting ready to make a run at the Hill again, but that's why I'm asking what Version I should use to play.

Oh, and my sequins do need some repair, my shoes need some polish, and I'm way out of prime gaming condition... but I will work on that.

Slynky
March 31st, 2004, 04:57 PM
But, you DO have a good supply of donuts and nanners, I take it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif .

Stone Mill
March 31st, 2004, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Slynky:
But, you DO have a good supply of donuts and nanners, I take it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif . <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Oh yeah Baby... But I'm trying to slim down for my next tour... make Momma proud.

Rollo
April 1st, 2004, 11:20 PM
I withdraw from the hill. Asmala, please advance Axel and don't put me back on the bottom.

Electrum
April 2nd, 2004, 04:40 AM
It appears Asmala is Spring Breaking.

narf poit chez BOOM
April 2nd, 2004, 01:15 PM
Sorry about missing a few days, MB. I've been waking up pretty tired lately. I'm not sure why. Regardless, I will be getting the turns in faster.

Asmala
April 2nd, 2004, 06:13 PM
I've been very busy at Last three weeks. At the first two weeks I had my final exams and after the exams I moved to another city and started a new work. The apartment where I've lived this week is temporary and I'll move again tomorrow. I should get internet connection on Monday but ISPs aren't always as reliable as one could wish.

I'd like to thank Spoon and BBegemott, they've been extremely patient in King and Bash games. If I get the connection as the ISP promised I should be able to play normally soon.

Asmala
April 2nd, 2004, 06:16 PM
Alneyan and Ragnarok, of course I can restart the game. Do I use the same settings and empire files?

Asmala
April 2nd, 2004, 06:20 PM
Stone Mill, the default Version is of course 1.91. What I should change on my rules page? All I can find about Version is "But in the Gold KOTH league the default Version will be the most recent patch of SEIV gold".

Asmala
April 2nd, 2004, 06:53 PM
Koth page is updated.

EDIT: Hmm, I think it's now someone else's turn to post here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

[ April 02, 2004, 16:54: Message edited by: Asmala ]

Ragnarok
April 2nd, 2004, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by Asmala:
Alneyan and Ragnarok, of course I can restart the game. Do I use the same settings and empire files? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I am going to use the same one. I assume Alneyan will too but you might want to wait until he replies.

Thanks!

Stone Mill
April 2nd, 2004, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by Asmala:
Stone Mill, the default Version is of course 1.91. What I should change on my rules page? All I can find about Version is "But in the Gold KOTH league the default Version will be the most recent patch of SEIV gold". <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">OK, Thanks. Sorry... My error. I read the sentence too quickly... it is quite clear.

Alneyan
April 2nd, 2004, 07:48 PM
Same here, I will not alter my Empire file, as it wouldn't be fair to tweak my Empire as I know his own Empire design. *Goes back to lurking mode and the Last few hours of work*

[ April 02, 2004, 17:48: Message edited by: Alneyan ]

Asmala
April 2nd, 2004, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Alneyan:
Same here, I will not alter my Empire file, as it wouldn't be fair to tweak my Empire as I know his own Empire design. *Goes back to lurking mode and the Last few hours of work* <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The game is restarted now.

Electrum
April 2nd, 2004, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Asmala:
I've been very busy at Last three weeks. At the first two weeks I had my final exams and after the exams I moved to another city and started a new work. The apartment where I've lived this week is temporary and I'll move again tomorrow. I should get internet connection on Monday but ISPs aren't always as reliable as one could wish.

I'd like to thank Spoon and BBegemott, they've been extremely patient in King and Bash games. If I get the connection as the ISP promised I should be able to play normally soon. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Welcome back!
Your missed when your gone. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Master Belisarius
April 3rd, 2004, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
Sorry about missing a few days, MB. I've been waking up pretty tired lately. I'm not sure why. Regardless, I will be getting the turns in faster. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No problem!

Phoenix-D
April 3rd, 2004, 08:49 PM
K.O.T.H. Lord Chane vs Phoenix-D is over. Good game to Chane; the situation wasn't one I was going to win and I need off the hill for a bit (finals approach)

Baron Grazic
April 6th, 2004, 02:33 AM
Asmala, can you take a look at the "K.O.T.H. Grazic vs Tescosamoa" game. It seems to have fallen over.
Thanks.

Katchoo
April 6th, 2004, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Asmala, can you take a look at the "K.O.T.H. Grazic vs Tescosamoa" game. It seems to have fallen over.
Thanks. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think PBW is having a hiccup, since a pair of my PBW games appear to be stuck on 'executing'.

Asmala
April 6th, 2004, 09:25 AM
Koth page is updated and Phoenix-D removed from the Hill.

Baron, the turn executed without problems at second time. I don't know why but there have been this kind of problems every now and then.

Baron Grazic
April 7th, 2004, 04:41 AM
Thanks Asmala. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Gandalph
April 8th, 2004, 02:23 AM
KOTH Vadimbey vs. Gandalph
Standard KOTH settings
Stardate 2411.9

Captain Riley reporting to Colonel Ernst;

"Sir, we have sent our Last assembled and trained fleet at the enemy with the new tactics you proposed. We were met with planetary defenses we should have expected, but were not prepared for, even on his none breathable planets. We have effectively killed 2 of his planets, and lost too many ships to be effective in another strike. With 2 20+ ship fleets at our flanks, we cannot survive this battle."

Colonel Ernst;
"Then I shall inform the Grand Cardinal that our God has abandoned us and we are defeated."

Grand Cardinal Qatar;
"I cannot believe that our God would abandon us this way. Send a message to Chancellor Gareth that we surrendar to the Phong, that we may live to see, and fight, another day."

Timstone
April 9th, 2004, 09:19 AM
Sorry, I saw this thread stuck at 2599 Posts and I wanted to post #2600. That's all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Asmala
April 9th, 2004, 11:36 AM
Koth page is updated.

I'll be away on Eastern so there's no updates before Tuesday.

Asmala
April 13th, 2004, 07:06 PM
I'm back now, but there's nothing to update. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Slynky
April 16th, 2004, 05:59 PM
Speaking of the "drafting" Spoon to the Rated Proposal, I was curious if the map (now that you have had a chance to play a while) seemed fair enough to you guys.

(of course, I can understand if you wish to keep such things a secret for a while longer http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

spoon
April 16th, 2004, 06:18 PM
I like how the map turned out. Two fronts to fight on, and starting points were far enough (but not too far) to make it pretty exciting.

Asmala
April 16th, 2004, 07:00 PM
I can't see the whole map (I didn't take ancient) but it looks like a fair map. My game isn't going very well, though. Or to be more precise, my game is going quite normally but Spoon is such a good player I've the feeling everything goes wrong http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (that attack with one DUC 3 destroyer and two mine sweeper 1 destroyers really caught me offhanded...)

tesco samoa
April 17th, 2004, 11:34 PM
well i am surrendering to grazic turn 63

it was a tough battle.... But I was losing the war on production and a big fleet also had something to do with it...

I play gand next ...

Gandalph
April 18th, 2004, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by tesco samoa:
well i am surrendering to grazic turn 63

it was a tough battle.... But I was losing the war on production and a big fleet also had something to do with it...

I play gand next ... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So, we meet again. It is almost like playing a respected friend. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Asmala
April 18th, 2004, 08:50 PM
Koth page updated.

I see Rextorres has withdrawn from his Koth game. I suppose the match is over, but who is the winner?

Electrum
April 20th, 2004, 03:36 AM
Parabolize vs Electrum

Electrum surrenders. Good game, Thanks

Asmala, leave me off the hill for a while.

Thanks

parabolize
April 20th, 2004, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by Electrum:
Parabolize vs Electrum

Electrum surrenders. Good game, Thanks

Asmala, leave me off the hill for a while.

Thanks <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Good game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Asmala
April 20th, 2004, 10:25 PM
Koth page updated and Electrum left off the Hill (for a while).

Ragnarok
April 23rd, 2004, 09:06 PM
Asmala,
I lost my KOTH game against Alneyan, please move him up and assign me to another game if one is available. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Thanks

Asmala
April 25th, 2004, 07:49 PM
Koth page is updated.

Stone Mill
April 25th, 2004, 11:06 PM
Good King Asmala,

Please place me at the bottom of the 'ol Hill.

I'm ready to Shake, Rattle, 'n Roll, Baby

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Slynky
April 26th, 2004, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by Stone Mill:
Good King Asmala,

Please place me at the bottom of the 'ol Hill.

I'm ready to Shake, Rattle, 'n Roll, Baby

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And, I believe he's quite serious...he just joined the Ratings system...so look for a few "adjustments" in Ratings soon.

It looks like "Elvis has ENTERED the stage!"

Ragnarok
April 26th, 2004, 07:54 PM
Asmala,

I had some events chance my playing time and so I will have to step off the hill to catch my breath. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I have informed Rambie of this.

Rest assured, I will return one day. And when that day comes, you all better watch out as I will sweep the hill clean of all contenders! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

BBegemott
April 26th, 2004, 08:04 PM
Asmala, put me back to the hill please. Just finished one game, and one more is going to end soon. So i have a slot that needs to be filled.
Thanks.

Slynky
April 26th, 2004, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by BBegemott:
Asmala, put me back to the hill please. Just finished one game, and one more is going to end soon. So i have a slot that needs to be filled.
Thanks. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sounds like me...trying to keep my game count to 4 these days. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Baron Grazic
April 27th, 2004, 01:02 AM
Hi Slynky
I'm having troubles sending emails to your email domain at the moment.
I might have to ask for a restart in our KOTH game.
It appears that my Home World has been located on a Ship Damaging Cloud.

Can you arrange this Asmala?

Slynky
April 27th, 2004, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Hi Slynky
I'm having troubles sending emails to your email domain at the moment.
I might have to ask for a restart in our KOTH game.
It appears that my Home World has been located on a Ship Damaging Cloud.

Can you arrange this Asmala? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's fine with me, Asmala.

Ragnarok
April 27th, 2004, 02:16 PM
Asmala, nevermind my Last request. Rambie and I are going to go ahead and play our game, but it will probably be at a slower pace then usual. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Asmala
April 27th, 2004, 09:48 PM
Welcome back Stone Mill and BBegemott. Looks like it'll be a tough game, two former kings facing each other.

Ragnarok: OK

Asmala
April 27th, 2004, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Hi Slynky
I'm having troubles sending emails to your email domain at the moment.
I might have to ask for a restart in our KOTH game.
It appears that my Home World has been located on a Ship Damaging Cloud.

Can you arrange this Asmala? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Game restarted.

Koth page is updated. I'll be away till Friday evening so no new updates before that.

Gozra
April 27th, 2004, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by Asmala:
Welcome back Stone Mill and BBegemott. Looks like it'll be a tough game, two former kings facing each other.

Ragnarok: OK <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sorry I can't help this

"Hey where's my tube of Regicide?"

Stone Mill
April 28th, 2004, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Gozra:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Asmala:
Welcome back Stone Mill and BBegemott. Looks like it'll be a tough game, two former kings facing each other.

Ragnarok: OK <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sorry I can't help this

"Hey where's my tube of Regicide?" </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Regicide- the word of the day. Nice, Gorza.

Asmala, tough isn't the word for this one.

Elvis, after his untimely dismissal from the throne, comforted himself with lots of fast food, nanners, peaanut butter, bad movies, assorted pills, etc...

But the hip-swinger promised a return. So he tried to gear up for another tour. He lived a clean life for a while to get back into action. However, he found himself at the bottom of the Hill- the only venue appropraite, despite his former Kingly status.

At least at the bottom, he would find some poor rookie that he could refine his skills against. Heh he heh... the poor lad won't know what hit him. Elvis could play a leisurely match and make plenty of mistakes, and perhaps try a few new things.

But into the lounge walks "he whose name shall not be pronounced correctly" BBegemott. Another former King with sharp skills trying to make the climb.

"Nice timing Haas," Elvis mutters.

At least the fall won't hurt as hard from here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky
April 28th, 2004, 09:16 PM
Well, Stoney, either he didn't take a look at who was waiting or he just didn't care that it was you. Makes one wonder just which it was http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif .

parabolize
April 30th, 2004, 03:38 PM
K.O.T.H. RexTorres vs Parabolize
Turn number: 2403.6
I surrender! I have lost ~30 DDs and he has lost maybe 5? One of my homeworlds is gone.
Rex moved faster than me in everything! I was going to try to out produce him but he started 2 systems away.
Good game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky
April 30th, 2004, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by parabolize:
K.O.T.H. RexTorres vs Parabolize
Turn number: 2403.6
I surrender! I have lost ~30 DDs and he has lost maybe 5? One of my homeworlds is gone.
Rex moved faster than me in everything! I was going to try to out produce him but he started 2 systems away.
Good game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ouch! I feel your pain ('cause I have been there before). There is just something about Rex and his DDs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif .

Slynky
May 1st, 2004, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by parabolize:
K.O.T.H. RexTorres vs Parabolize
Turn number: 2403.6
I surrender!<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hey, guys, I don't have this listed as a Ratings game. Perhaps I misplaced an email or something or missed a message in the forum. Was this supposed to be rated?

parabolize
May 1st, 2004, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by Slynky:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by parabolize:
K.O.T.H. RexTorres vs Parabolize
Turn number: 2403.6
I surrender!<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hey, guys, I don't have this listed as a Ratings game. Perhaps I misplaced an email or something or missed a message in the forum. Was this supposed to be rated? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I forgot to email you.
If Rex wants we can rate it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Asmala
May 1st, 2004, 10:02 AM
Koth page updated

Master Belisarius
May 2nd, 2004, 02:31 PM
Narf surrendered at the turn 54.

Thanks for the game Narf!

Alneyan
May 2nd, 2004, 02:37 PM
Oops, it seems like we will play with each other Belisarius, and this time Slynky won't be here to save the day. *Grumbles*

Master Belisarius
May 2nd, 2004, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Alneyan:
Oops, it seems like we will play with each other Belisarius, and this time Slynky won't be here to save the day. *Grumbles* <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">But if I'm not wrong, you was who won the battle that decided me to surrender...

Alneyan
May 2nd, 2004, 03:33 PM
A battle in which you had less ships, and some of them were of dubious designs if memory serves.

Nevertheless, we shall see what happens when we are alone on the field. *Smirks* Do you have any preference for the settings?

My only suggestion (besides the ordinary) would be to mention PvK Balance Mod, which tweaks the costs of most advanced traits and characteristics during Empire setup. (Gone are the days of the almighty standard setup, where much goodness could be bought with a mere 2,000 points) However, I have already played this mod once in KOTH, so you may find a problem here. Your choice!

Asmala
May 2nd, 2004, 03:40 PM
Koth page is updated.

Master Belisarius
May 2nd, 2004, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Alneyan:
A battle in which you had less ships, and some of them were of dubious designs if memory serves.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Right!

Originally posted by Alneyan:

Nevertheless, we shall see what happens when we are alone on the field. *Smirks* Do you have any preference for the settings?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Would prefer a Tesco's map.

Originally posted by Alneyan:

My only suggestion (besides the ordinary) would be to mention PvK Balance Mod, which tweaks the costs of most advanced traits and characteristics during Empire setup. (Gone are the days of the almighty standard setup, where much goodness could be bought with a mere 2,000 points) However, I have already played this mod once in KOTH, so you may find a problem here. Your choice! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have not problem if you already played with this mod (I never did). Generally I dislike to play with mods that change the tech tree and/or change the game balance (even in SP!). But anyway would agree to play with the PvKBM if you want it.

narf poit chez BOOM
May 4th, 2004, 09:24 AM
Parabolize: I'll email you tommorow when my brain works.

gravey101
May 4th, 2004, 03:00 PM
Rand vs Gravey is finished with the Gravey Clan victorious. Thanks for the game Rand...

parabolize
May 4th, 2004, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
Parabolize: I'll email you tommorow when my brain works. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">you should have a email from me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

narf poit chez BOOM
May 4th, 2004, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by parabolize:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
Parabolize: I'll email you tommorow when my brain works. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">you should have a email from me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, that's what prompted that message.

Asmala
May 5th, 2004, 10:29 PM
Koth page is updated.

Slynky
May 7th, 2004, 11:21 PM
Baron Grazic vs Slynky - 2405.5

The Baron surrenders. With a few very small skirmishes and some "here and there" mine laying on borders where we met, the build-up began. When the dust settled, a few critical battles were fought and the Baron had the worst end of it. We both had about equal portions of the map.

Asmala
May 10th, 2004, 05:28 PM
Koth page is updated (a bit delayed thought).

parabolize
May 10th, 2004, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by parabolize:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
Parabolize: I'll email you tommorow when my brain works. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">you should have a email from me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, that's what prompted that message. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Are you going to upload a empire this week? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

narf poit chez BOOM
May 11th, 2004, 11:05 PM
My internet glitched yesterday or I would have uploaded one, just got it fixed today. Still not sure what the problem was. Anyway, I'll have one uploaded today.

parabolize
May 12th, 2004, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
My internet glitched yesterday or I would have uploaded one, just got it fixed today. Still not sure what the problem was. Anyway, I'll have one uploaded today. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ok http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

narf poit chez BOOM
May 12th, 2004, 10:01 AM
I'm really sorry, but I'm going to have to cancel. I've been having irregular alergy attacks for about three weeks now and I can't sey for certain wether I could play with anything approching intelligence. Or creativity. In fact, pretty much everything but shoving tissue up my nose is going to have to be canceled. I would appreciate it if someone could be found to play my P&N turns. In the meantime, expect me when spring is over.

- Narf, wishing that alergy pills worked better for him. My, don't I get eloquent when my head feels like cotten batting in liqued nitrogen. Anything for a distraction, I suppose.

narf poit chez BOOM
May 12th, 2004, 10:46 PM
I will try to play the P&N game until a replacement can be found. Again, sorry.

Katchoo
May 13th, 2004, 06:45 PM
K.O.T.H. Zharktas vs Katchoo: 2409.5

Zharktas surrenders. It looks like we both played cautiously throughout, with neither side really making a strike beyond the borders of the opponent. Zharktas did show larger Fleets then I did early on, but my tech base appeared to be ahead of his, and my outnumbered Ships managed to defeat just about every Fleet of his that we came across. That, in combination with a faster Colonization program from my end, backed Zharktas' Empire into a corner that he couldn't get out from.

I want to thank Zharktas for a competetive game that always had me worried that he would suddenly appear with a massive Fleet that I wouldn't be able to stop.

Whew! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Asmala, go ahead and set me up with whoever may be waiting on the 2nd Level.

Zharktas, thanks again for a fun match.

Baron Grazic
May 14th, 2004, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by Slynky:
Baron Grazic vs Slynky - 2405.5

The Baron surrenders. With a few very small skirmishes and some "here and there" mine laying on borders where we met, the build-up began. When the dust settled, a few critical battles were fought and the Baron had the worst end of it. We both had about equal portions of the map. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yep - Thanks for a good game Slynky.
I lost this game, due to a better player and not thinking my Strategy thru propertly. I designed a Empire with the plan of winning in the Long-term & followed thru with that Strategy, even through it was a Medium map, and we had early contact.
Of course not paying 200% attention ()let only 100% attention) against a top rated player doesn't help either. I only noticed I lost my advanced southern colony, when my first defensive ship arrived with low supplies only to find no resupply depot existed anymore. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Baron Grazic
May 14th, 2004, 02:40 AM
K.O.T.H. Rand vs Grazic 2400.0

Standard Koth game, with Large planet start. It is a bit of a relief to be playing a game that is not rated. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Good luck Rand.

narf poit chez BOOM
May 16th, 2004, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
I will try to play the P&N game until a replacement can be found. Again, sorry. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ok, I was panicking to much about that. But I'm still not going to start a new game till spring is over. I'm pretty sure it wasn't this bad Last year.

Slynky
May 16th, 2004, 03:48 AM
Gravey vs Slynky - 2404.2

The Gravey Empire surrenders. We were fairly well-spaced in the galaxy but I seemed to get the lion's share. That's tough to work against when you're down by 25K in research, and 25 colonys...the numbers only get worse.

Thanks for a good game, Gravey, and nice fast turn turnaround is always appreciated. Good luck in your next advance up the hill !

gravey101
May 16th, 2004, 03:00 PM
Yes, thanks for the game Slynky...

Asmala
May 16th, 2004, 08:50 PM
Koth page is updated.

Joachim
May 17th, 2004, 02:15 AM
Heh ya Slynky - Looks like we have a re-match!
My ambit claim is: No intel, No ancient, Geo Balance map, otherwise standard KOTH.
Yours?

Slynky
May 17th, 2004, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by Joachim:
Heh ya Slynky - Looks like we have a re-match!
My ambit claim is: No intel, No ancient, Geo Balance map, otherwise standard KOTH.
Yours? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sounds fair (unless you start right beside me, then I'll scream I was cheated! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Joachim
May 17th, 2004, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Slynky:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Joachim:
Heh ya Slynky - Looks like we have a re-match!
My ambit claim is: No intel, No ancient, Geo Balance map, otherwise standard KOTH.
Yours? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sounds fair (unless you start right beside me, then I'll scream I was cheated! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Cool, will upload emp.
Good Luck, I hope this game can be as fun and interesting as Last time. Oh, and if you do win - you better get that shiny crown!!

Joachim
May 21st, 2004, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by Joachim:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Slynky:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Joachim:
Heh ya Slynky - Looks like we have a re-match!
My ambit claim is: No intel, No ancient, Geo Balance map, otherwise standard KOTH.
Yours? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sounds fair (unless you start right beside me, then I'll scream I was cheated! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Cool, will upload emp.
Good Luck, I hope this game can be as fun and interesting as Last time. Oh, and if you do win - you better get that shiny crown!! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What about rating?
I am happy too.

Slynky
May 21st, 2004, 11:58 AM
Joachim, I assumed it would be rated but I guess we never formally said so.

Then, the race is on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Asmala
May 24th, 2004, 07:17 PM
Koth page is updated.

tesco samoa
May 27th, 2004, 03:13 AM
hi i have surrenedered to Gand. In our game.

I have completely failed to keep up with turns. And I just could not offer the game that my friend expects and deservers. So I have surrendered. And I offer an appology to Gand. I do look forward to playing again down the road. But only after I know I can offer a good and timely game playing.

Simon.

Gandalph
May 27th, 2004, 07:50 PM
No apology necessary bud. Sometimes RL gets in the way. I am only sorry to see you lose in this fashion. I too look forward to meeting you in future games and wish you luck with whatever you need it for.

tesco samoa
May 28th, 2004, 04:07 AM
also i am pulling out of koth for a while

Gand. Your a gentleman. Thanks.

Slynky
May 30th, 2004, 03:07 PM
Joachim vs Slynky - 2405.0

Slynky surrenders. It was a game of "too much": Joachim had too much of the galaxy, too much skill, and too many ships! I've played him enough to know he will be unstopable with this kind of advantage...so I've saved time for both him and me by doing the honorable thing...surrendering in the face of the obvious.

You played a very good game. But you owe me! Anyone who stops me from getting a shot at the King had better knock him off his throne or I feel my defeat was in vain http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

Good luck, mate!

Slynky
May 30th, 2004, 03:24 PM
EEK ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif EEK !

Just realized my surrender pits me against Mark the Merciful at the bottom of the hill...what a STRANGE twist of fate...starting a team game with him and another game against him...fate is so funny sometimes.

Mark the Merciful
May 30th, 2004, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Slynky:
EEK ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif EEK !

Just realized my surrender pits me against Mark the Merciful at the bottom of the hill...what a STRANGE twist of fate...starting a team game with him and another game against him...fate is so funny sometimes. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ahhh... Good afternoon, Slynky (licks lips in anticipation). It will be an honour for you to act as the first stepping stone on my path to Greatness.

Default KOTH settings? Or does everyone ban Ancient these days?

[ May 30, 2004, 14:39: Message edited by: Mark the Merciful ]

Slynky
May 30th, 2004, 04:42 PM
Naw, I don't ban Ancient in KOTH games. I'll take standard KOTH settings with the exception of wanting a GOOD planet to start with.

BTW, just remembered this will be my 3rd game with you...besides the one you beat me at before, we never finished another "test" one we started. My lucky number is 3, and 3rd time is the charm as they say (*crosses fingers*).

Slynky
May 30th, 2004, 04:49 PM
I wonder where Asmala is. Not like him to take off and not let us know. (maybe I missed it somewhere)

Joachim
May 31st, 2004, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by Slynky:
Joachim vs Slynky - 2405.0

Slynky surrenders. It was a game of "too much": Joachim had too much of the galaxy, too much skill, and too many ships! I've played him enough to know he will be unstopable with this kind of advantage...so I've saved time for both him and me by doing the honorable thing...surrendering in the face of the obvious.

You played a very good game. But you owe me! Anyone who stops me from getting a shot at the King had better knock him off his throne or I feel my defeat was in vain http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

Good luck, mate! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks for the game! I trust this wasn't timed well so I might not put you in a nebulae in the up coming grudge team game??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I will do my best up top - though the rarefied atmosphere is making me giddy.

I was suprised that you didn't attack my lonely planet all by itself in the shared system we had. Also I didn't see you come into the system to the east of it either? Of course this just made me more paranoid about what to expect!

Slynky
May 31st, 2004, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by Joachim:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Slynky:
Joachim vs Slynky - 2405.0

Slynky surrenders. It was a game of "too much": Joachim had too much of the galaxy, too much skill, and too many ships! I've played him enough to know he will be unstopable with this kind of advantage...so I've saved time for both him and me by doing the honorable thing...surrendering in the face of the obvious.

You played a very good game. But you owe me! Anyone who stops me from getting a shot at the King had better knock him off his throne or I feel my defeat was in vain http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

Good luck, mate! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks for the game! I trust this wasn't timed well so I might not put you in a nebulae in the up coming grudge team game??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I will do my best up top - though the rarefied atmosphere is making me giddy.

I was suprised that you didn't attack my lonely planet all by itself in the shared system we had. Also I didn't see you come into the system to the east of it either? Of course this just made me more paranoid about what to expect! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hehe, I figured if I surrendered BEFORE you placed me it might add some insurance I didn't get a homeworld in an asteroid field, either http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

As to the lonely planet, I already told you my plan to try to gain back some lost advantage...I prepared for 10-12 turns building sweepers, troops, and troopships to try to get the breathers. I moved them within 1 turn's movement the same turn you showed up with 48 ships http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif . To me, it was worth more to try to get breathers from it than just glassing it.

And the system to the east you referred to, since I fought 4 or 5 ships in the system to the east of THAT one, I assumed you already had shipyards in there and the usual mines, etc. Since where that occurred at was at the far end of my exploration, I didn't have the system built up yet and there was only one SY at the time I fought those few ships of yours. And I nearly got beat, remember.

Asmala
May 31st, 2004, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by Slynky:
I wonder where Asmala is. Not like him to take off and not let us know. (maybe I missed it somewhere) <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I had my high school graduation and I forgot to post it here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I'll update the Koth page now, but I can't create new games due to problems in PBW server. Or actually I can create the games but I can't assign new players to them.

Asmala
May 31st, 2004, 10:45 AM
OK, Koth page is updated now.

spoon
May 31st, 2004, 03:55 PM
Hey Asmala -

Congrats on graduating!

For our game - I'm stuck with a v1.84 exe that doesn't want to upgrade, so I won't be able to do my KOTH turn until I get home Saturday... Sorry again for yet another delay!

spoon
May 31st, 2004, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by spoon:
For our game - I'm stuck with a v1.84 exe that doesn't want to upgrade, so I won't be able to do my KOTH turn until I get home Saturday... Sorry again for yet another delay! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Strike that. Geo Tech Support, Inc managed to fix my problem... will do my turn shortly...

primitive
May 31st, 2004, 06:40 PM
So, hows the match going ?

I'm getting rusty here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Asmala
June 1st, 2004, 09:06 AM
King Of The Hill - Asmala vs Spoon, 2404.7

Borders are established and it looks like Spoon got a bit bigger part of the galaxy. I didn't take ancient so I don't know how good systems he have, but my side of the galaxy contains too many useless systems to my taste.

Spoon has lead in scores all the time, and that worries me a lot. Every turn I fear a appearance of a giant fleet, but luckily it hasn't happened yet.

There has been one bigger battle, Spoon's destroyers against my weapon platforms. My platforms were victorious and it saved my butt that time. I fear next time Spoon will be prepared to meet those weapon platforms...

Mark the Merciful
June 2nd, 2004, 01:01 AM
Mark the Merciful vs Slynky - 2400.3

A Trithian scout-ship (or gun-ship?) warped into the system and is headed straight for our planet.

Bum.

Slynky
June 2nd, 2004, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Mark the Merciful:
Mark the Merciful vs Slynky - 2400.3

A Trithian scout-ship (or gun-ship?) warped into the system and is headed straight for our planet.

Bum. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">We were just taking a closer look at the planet. After some long-range scanning, we decided the smell coming up from the ground was too disgusting and moved on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Grandpa Kim
June 5th, 2004, 10:02 PM
I'd like to get back on the hill.

But my games situation means days could go by without my being able to play a Koth turn, followed by days where I could play almost continuously.

If you guys thinks this is alright, I'd like to play, otherwise I'll wait till things settle down a bit.

Slynky
June 5th, 2004, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
I'd like to get back on the hill.

But my games situation means days could go by without my being able to play a Koth turn, followed by days where I could play almost continuously.

If you guys thinks this is alright, I'd like to play, otherwise I'll wait till things settle down a bit. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It would be OK with me. Sure, I like fast games but I think it would be fine (especially if, on the days you could play, you could try to make arrangements with your opponent...which COULD be me if Mark keeps whipping my butt!)

Alneyan
June 5th, 2004, 10:35 PM
A short update while PBW is down:

Alneyan vs Master Belisarius, aka "Who will be the lucky one to go after BBegemot for his next KOTH game?". Turn 55 or so.

There have been quite a few skirmishes of late, where I had the upper hand since my infamous Light Carriers are invincible. (Granted, having better ECM/CS and first shot does help, but not to the point of destroying a fleet twice as big as yours with no casualties) However, Belisarius has raiders behind the lines, and they are currently headed straight for my homeworld. My homeworld! How dares he! The current defences of my homeworld includes the Almighty Escort Harbinger of Doom, but even such a fine vessel might not be enough to repel the four raiders and their minesweeper escort.

I think I have more systems than Belisarius, but given the number of Nebulaes/Asteroid belts on my side, I guess we are roughly on par here. I have more planets than he does, but unbreathable moons have never been known to give much help. Still, my situation isn't as bad as I had expected, and with another tech colony being put to good use, I should expect to finally get rid of my mineral shortages.

The game does seem to be quite open for now, but its final outcome will likely be decided in the turns to come. My spies have reported an increasing flow of Light Cruisers from Belisarius's systems however, so another strike seems likely. There are enough ways to reach my systems thanks to these pesky nebulaes, but I trust my luck will handle such an eventuality. (With the involvment of these Dichosos Light Carriers if needed, or even a Pandora or three. *Winks at Slynky*)

[ June 05, 2004, 21:36: Message edited by: Alneyan ]

Katchoo
June 6th, 2004, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by Alneyan:
Alneyan vs Master Belisarius, aka "Who will be the lucky one to go after BBegemot for his next KOTH game?". Turn 55 or so.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

What am I? Broccoli pudding!?!

Just for that remark, I'm going to drag out my match with BBegemott for as long as I can!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Why I do believe the power supply in my computer is looking a tad dry. Mayhaps I should wet it's appetite with a glass of water...

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAP!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Master Belisarius
June 6th, 2004, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by Alneyan:
There have been quite a few skirmishes of late, where I had the upper hand since my infamous Light Carriers are invincible. (Granted, having better ECM/CS and first shot does help, but not to the point of destroying a fleet twice as big as yours with no casualties)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Could be. But think after the first wave of shots, I had less than the half of my combat ships (into the fleet, existed 6 sweepers and 1 repair ship).

Originally posted by Alneyan:

However, Belisarius has raiders behind the lines, and they are currently headed straight for my homeworld. My homeworld! How dares he! The current defences of my homeworld includes the Almighty Escort Harbinger of Doom, but even such a fine vessel might not be enough to repel the four raiders and their minesweeper escort.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Think it was a good move... but can't bet my ships would destroy your planet...

At the end, think would be difficult to me, reach the victory (not impossible but...). I have not enough good mineral planets and the Alneyan's raiders are doing his job too!

Alneyan
June 6th, 2004, 12:18 PM
I am betting on a shortage of supplies to save my homeworld, but even if I lose the planet, it shouldn't be so much of a problem. (Hopefully)

Katchoo, why, it was part of my plan. My insolent actions ignited your wrath, and you shall be a force to be reckoned with, dangerous enough to eat high-bonus Asmalas for breakfast. Besides, BBegemott will underestimate you with any luck, thus improving your odds even more. Such was the purpose of my message. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif (Why do I have the nagging feeling I am not too credible?)

Mark the Merciful
June 6th, 2004, 12:19 PM
Mark the Merciful (Kif Hegemony) vs Slynky (Trithian Empire) - 2404.5

May as well post a report while we're waiting for PBW http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

We're playing in a small spiral galaxy, and our home systems started out next to each other - something Slynky, having chosen Ancient, realised quicker than I did. He had a chance on turn three to bombard my planet with a missile armed ship, and with a bit of luck could have done enough damage then to end the game. Slynky decided not to. Very gentlemanly, but the wrong decision I think; this is a competitive tournament.

Pretty soon after that we both had the connecting warp-point blocked with defenses, and were trying to expand elsewhere. However, my homeworld sits between Slynky and most of the rest of the galaxy, and he's had to either fight his way through or wriggle around me in order to find colony space. Which he's done far too well for my liking, but I think it's been a big disadvantage to him.

Thanks to some poor race-design and early research decisions, my warships tend to explode as soon as they come within scanner range of his. The successes I've had have been with minefields (Slynky tried to send a 12 ship force into my home system in around 2403 and didn't bring enough sweepers...), kamikaze ships at warp points, or overwhelming numbers. The Last twenty turns have been very tense, because with a couple shared systems and no definable front-line, it's a completely different game to the Last one we played.

I've now put together a force of 16 ships, which was strong enough that his superior ships couldn't beat it, and had enough sweeping capacity to get through his minefields. So far it's glassed a couple of his expansion colonies, and is looking for more...

But I'm sure Slynky's got stuff I haven't seen (what's he been building up in his home system?), so nothing's decided yet. More news, as soon as it happens...

Mark

[ June 06, 2004, 11:22: Message edited by: Mark the Merciful ]

Asmala
June 6th, 2004, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
I'd like to get back on the hill.

But my games situation means days could go by without my being able to play a Koth turn, followed by days where I could play almost continuously.

If you guys thinks this is alright, I'd like to play, otherwise I'll wait till things settle down a bit. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think it's alright and I've put you back on the hill. However I'll ask your opponent whether that's OK with him as well.

Grandpa Kim
June 6th, 2004, 06:31 PM
Thanks Asmala.

That's why I posted. So any possible opponent could say, "No thanks." In any event, I will try to play at least one turn every day.

Slynky
June 6th, 2004, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by Mark the Merciful:
Mark the Merciful (Kif Hegemony) vs Slynky (Trithian Empire) - 2405.0

May as well post a report while we're waiting for PBW http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

We're playing in a small spiral galaxy, and our home systems started out next to each other - something Slynky, having chosen Ancient, realised quicker than I did. He had a chance on turn three to bombard my planet with a missile armed ship, and with a bit of luck could have done enough damage then to end the game. Slynky decided not to. Very gentlemanly, but the wrong decision I think; this is a competitive tournament.

Pretty soon after that we both had the connecting warp-point blocked with defenses, and were trying to expand elsewhere. However, my homeworld sits between Slynky and most of the rest of the galaxy, and he's had to either fight his way through or wriggle around me in order to find colony space. Which he's done far too well for my liking, but I think it's been a big disadvantage to him.

Thanks to some poor race-design and early research decisions, my warships tend to explode as soon as they come within scanner range of his. The successes I've had have been with minefields (Slynky tried to send a 12 ship force into my home system in around 2403 and didn't bring enough sweepers...), kamikaze ships at warp points, or overwhelming numbers. The Last twenty turns have been very tense, because with a couple shared systems and no definable front-line, it's a completely different game to the Last one we played.

I've now put together a force of 16 ships, which was strong enough that his superior ships couldn't beat it, and had enough sweeping capacity to get through his minefields. So far it's glassed a couple of his expansion colonies, and is looking for more...

But I'm sure Slynky's got stuff I haven't seen (what's he been building up in his home system?), so nothing's decided yet. More news, as soon as it happens...

Mark <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, once again, Mark, one of the strangest games I've played and it's with you AGAIN! Turn 50 and I don't even have 20k research http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif ! Sad choice of planets in my home system and sad mineral planets to be had elsewhere...had to build ships instead of research centers. And no shortage of nebulas/asteroid systems on my side, either. I've managed to get around here and there but I always have to build mines for protection and never get a chance to build many ships (or otherwise).

Despite our disagreement on whether or not I should have taken advantage of my knowledge his homeworld was in the next system to mine, I think both will agree a (perhaps) quick win wouldn't have been as much fun as this one is.

Also weird is playing against him in KOTH and with him in a very important rated team game. But we separate the 2 games as we should.

Electrum
June 7th, 2004, 05:11 PM
Asmala,

RL is settling down & some complicated, time-consuming games have either ended or left me behind. Please put me back on the hill.

Grandpa Kim
June 8th, 2004, 12:26 AM
Looks like it will be you and me, Electrum, if you can put up with my time constraints.

I have some huge games that can be all consuming but they also leave me with some huge gaps to fill. For instance, I haven't played a turn of any kind since Friday! I find I am becoming more aggressive in RL, threatening to punch out dogs and gut cats. I need some PBW action!

Anyway, there will be times when I can play at most one turn a day and other times (weekends usually) when I can play a hell of a lot.

If this is not acceptable for you, feel free to beg off playing me. No hard feelings from me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Electrum
June 8th, 2004, 02:06 AM
Not a problem.
I will be out of town Thursday through Sunday, so we may not get started until after that.

Asmala
June 8th, 2004, 07:50 PM
Koth page is updated. Remember you must join manually to the games now.

Grandpa Kim
June 9th, 2004, 12:41 AM
Electrum, here are my preferences for the game:
</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">One good planet start</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No ancient</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No intel</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Small Tesco map</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

Electrum
June 9th, 2004, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
Electrum, here are my preferences for the game:
</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">One good planet start</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No ancient</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No intel</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Small Tesco map</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sounds OK.

Asmala, please go ahead & go with these settings.
Thanks.

Electrum
June 9th, 2004, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
Electrum, here are my preferences for the game:
</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">One good planet start</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No ancient</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No intel</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Small Tesco map</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">One more thing. Is the small Tesco map his balanced map where you don't use "None" on atmosphere?

Slynky
June 9th, 2004, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Electrum:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
Electrum, here are my preferences for the game:
</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">One good planet start</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No ancient</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No intel</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Small Tesco map</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">One more thing. Is the small Tesco map his balanced map where you don't use "None" on atmosphere? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The Tesco maps are regular...NONE atmos appears as well as all the others. Not sure if Simon ever generated any with the Balance mod.

Grandpa Kim
June 10th, 2004, 04:33 AM
Originally posted by Slynky:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Electrum:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
Electrum, here are my preferences for the game:
</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">One good planet start</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No ancient</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No intel</font> <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Small Tesco map</font><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">One more thing. Is the small Tesco map his balanced map where you don't use "None" on atmosphere? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The Tesco maps are regular...NONE atmos appears as well as all the others. Not sure if Simon ever generated any with the Balance mod. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, they are pretty standard maps, but Tesco has made an effort to keep the start planets well separated.

Asmala
June 10th, 2004, 08:04 PM
I'll be away till Monday, but since PBW is down I guess there isn't much happening in Koth.

parabolize
June 11th, 2004, 12:21 AM
Parabolize vs. Zharktas
turn 2405.3
Zharktas surrenders.
Good game but don't choose gas on koth maps. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Slynky
June 12th, 2004, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Mark the Merciful:
Mark the Merciful (Kif Hegemony) vs Slynky (Trithian Empire) - 2406.1
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, I have to second that comment! As posted before, 2nd game with Mark the Merciful and second time it's been a strange game! At this turn level to only have just reached 30K research is, well, very Primitive ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) of me.

Well, I don't normally reveal the empire design opponents take, but I suspect it will be a long time before Mark tries Religious again in a KOTH game. So, there is reduced worry in revealing the exact nature of his dilemma in fighting.

I thought I boxed him in but when I looked around, I boxed myself in. So, both being boxed in resulted in a lower research level for many of the starting turns.

This turn, I finally made my first LCs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif . I'm planning multiple assualts as a Last ditch effort before he manages to gain the Talisman (besides, I am resource poor).

Mines are still really a major player in this game which is also unusual for this time of the game.

It's really turned into a race for Mark to see if he can split his research up into getting enough equipment to keep his ships competitive while letting the overflow dribble into the Talisman research. For me, I need to stop him.

It's been a very interesting game and Mark has played brilliantly! As I said in an earlier post (well, kind of), I'd rather have had this fun and this kind of strategy game over the quick win I may have had at turn 3 (surprising him at his homeworld with a missile ship). Win or lose.

Mark the Merciful
June 13th, 2004, 01:08 AM
Mark the Merciful (Kif Hegemony) vs Slynky (Trithian Empire) - 2406.1

Still a very open, mind-taxing game. The squadron I had such high hopes for chased down into Slynky's newest expansion colonies, and fought about 3 destroyers coming through a warp-point. We won, but took so much damage that there was no functional combat power left - the only ships undamaged were the minesweepers. So they all fled back to their base with their tails between their legs. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

A couple of turns later, Slynky's homeworld vomitted out a large fleet that swept all the mines at the connecting WP and destroyed my defending fleet. However, he took a reasonable amount of damage and - most importantly - lost several minesweepers. So, did I have 100 mines orbitting my homeworld, or was it only 20? You know, in all the excitement, I'd kinda forgotten myself. So the question he had to ask himself was; did he feel lucky, punk? Well, did he?

He didn't. His fleet patrolled in the middle of my home system, scaring the children and wrechking the real-estate values. I started concentrating warships as fast as I could, but I was very nervous about any coming battle; my race is just not cut out for space battles. We are a superior civilisation, and our children grow up playing turn-based strategy games not mindless reflex-testing console rubbish. The result is that when they grow up and join the navy, and are put in front of a radar screen with incoming dots and weapons to fire, they just have no idea what to do...

Anyway, Slynky hung around for several turns, and colonised a planet in my system. Finally he decided to take the risk of attacking one of my minor planets in the home system. The minefield was bigger than his sweeping capacity, and he lost a number ships while glassing the planet. I decided that I couldn't wait any more, and two turns ago attacked. Thanks to superior numbers and the damage he'd previously taken, we won that battle (with heavy losses of our own) and cleared the nasty Trithian colony from our system. Now what?

It's still a very low-tech game (DUCs, ion engines, missiles, a bit of armour and ECM) because neither of us have had the resources to spend on development. What's more, there is no way of identifying a front-line or defending, anything very much. So there's lots of maneuver, lots of guessing, and too much tension.

What fun. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

LonghornXtreme
June 14th, 2004, 03:04 AM
Well I just dropped Asmala a line to start playing KOTH matches...

I'm definitely green at this game but I think some heads up will be the best way to gain some more experience. I wouldn't call myself a complete newb but I wouldn't call myself truly skilled either.

Anyways just wanted to say I'm looking forward to squaring off against all of ya'll out there!

parabolize
June 14th, 2004, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by LonghornXtreme:
Well I just dropped Asmala a line to start playing KOTH matches...

I'm definitely green at this game but I think some heads up will be the best way to gain some more experience. I wouldn't call myself a complete newb but I wouldn't call myself truly skilled either.

Anyways just wanted to say I'm looking forward to squaring off against all of ya'll out there! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Check out these befor you start to play:
koth clone (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=008085#000000)
newb faq (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=009760)

[ June 14, 2004, 02:36: Message edited by: parabolize ]

Slynky
June 14th, 2004, 03:41 AM
I still remember my initiation... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

My first KOTH game against the "steamroller", Primitive. He's currently the highest rated player in the SE4 Ratings system. I managed to Last 60 or so turns but it was probably because he wasn't sure of what my skill level was and played it carefully.

You'll find a lot of good players in KOTH. And KOTH is a good training ground. Welcome to the fun (and welcome to your training). And always remember, learn, learn, learn. If you get beat, ask questions about what you did wrong. Most everyone I've talked with is glad to offer tips and critique your game.

Of course, you may be "sandbagging" us...LOL... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

LonghornXtreme
June 14th, 2004, 04:05 AM
I'd hardly say I'm sandbagging at all... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I fully expect to go down in flames for at least 2 quick games and 2 mid games if not more...

I'm confident I can learn to hang quickly but I just need the playing time.

Thanks for that KOTH clone thread parabolize. I appreciate it!

Looking forward to playing some of ya'll!

Slynky
June 14th, 2004, 04:11 AM
Originally posted by LonghornXtreme:
I'd hardly say I'm sandbagging at all... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I fully expect to go down in flames for at least 2 quick games and 2 mid games if not more...

I'm confident I can learn to hang quickly but I just need the playing time.

Thanks for that KOTH clone thread parabolize. I appreciate it!

Looking forward to playing some of ya'll! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Try this one for some more tips, too:

Something I Posted (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=007559;p=44)

(not trying to plug myself, but just bringing your attention to some things that may help you. I'm above average player and these are some of the ways I do things.)

Fyron
June 14th, 2004, 04:19 AM
You can make a link to a specific post by right clicking on the post icon (immediately to the left of "posted on...") for that post and selecting "copy link".

[ June 14, 2004, 03:20: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Slynky
June 14th, 2004, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You can make a link to a specific post by right clicking on the post icon (immediately to the left of "posted on...") for that post and selecting "copy link". <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If I understand you, you're saying I could have posted a link directly to my message instead of just the page it was on. Right?

Fyron
June 14th, 2004, 06:20 AM
Right.

Alneyan
June 14th, 2004, 11:38 AM
A few tips which would have helped me quite a lot in my first game:
- ECM, Combat Sensors and training are very, very needed. Fleet training is easy to handle, but you will need some time to train your ships. I guess you have heard about this one quite a lot of time, but it is one of the most important areas in the game, and can truly ruin the day if forgotten.
- There are not too many good weapons around ; above all, do forget about torpedoes and, to a lesser extent, seekers. Torpedoes are weak, and seekers are a bit hard to use with strategical combat, so you will want to be careful with these weapons. (I can tell you losing nine ships to two enemy ships, all else being equal save weaponry, does hurt. *Smirks*)
- Expansion is the key, as being cornered into a corner means a slow death. And if you are playing with someone fond of technology, you will want to do your research as quickly as possible. (Having at the very least 1,000 research points times the turn you are in is needed in all games. But having three times as much is not unusual if you do want to play a tech race)

Welcome to you and good luck! Hopefully you will not run into Asmala himself for your first game, or another similar player. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Baron Grazic
June 15th, 2004, 12:16 AM
Rand vs. Grazic
Turn 2405.6
Rand surrenders.
Thanks Rand, You certinaly did a few things differently and I know things would have turned out differently, if I hadn't quickly mined that south key system. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Renegade 13
June 15th, 2004, 01:15 AM
How long is it before a player is considered to have forfeited a PBW game?? Currently in my game vs Dav, the Last time he uploaded a turn was the 30th of May. Now, PBW has been down a lot recently, but what should I do?? I wanna play (I'm winning http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) but he isn't playing so...?? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

LonghornXtreme
June 15th, 2004, 01:54 AM
Thanks for the tips Alneyan...

I'll certainly keep that in mind once I get in my first match!

Asmala
June 16th, 2004, 08:45 AM
Koth page is updated.

Welcome new players LonghornXtreme and Fire.

Asmala
June 16th, 2004, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by Renegade 13:
How long is it before a player is considered to have forfeited a PBW game?? Currently in my game vs Dav, the Last time he uploaded a turn was the 30th of May. Now, PBW has been down a lot recently, but what should I do?? I wanna play (I'm winning http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) but he isn't playing so...?? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've sent a message to Dav. Let's wait and see what happens.

Baron Grazic
June 18th, 2004, 04:33 AM
Hi Asmala.
Can you take me off the Hill because my free time has just crashed to almost nothing. I should be able to handle the games I'm in, but no others.
Sorry.
Baron Grazic

LonghornXtreme
June 18th, 2004, 08:51 AM
Just wondering if someone could point to the place in this massive thread where the 'standard' KOTH settings are described? Basically I just wanted to know if Intel was an issue along with the standard amount of Racial Points to create my KOTH empire...

Zhakartas and I are gonna duke it out and it should be nice and interesting!

primitive
June 18th, 2004, 09:30 AM
Basically, any setting is legal, but these are standard/most common:
- Standard racial points are default SEIV settings: 2000.
- Standard Map is small spiral with no ruins, but many choose a Tesco ™ Map (Balanced starting positions) instead.
- Standard is 1 normal (medium) planet. Some prefer good (large) instead (easier to manage resources at the start). 3 starting planets are also widely used (shaves about 10 turns off the game).
- Intel is on, unless both players want it off.
- Many players prefer a “No Ancient” rule. Again, both have to agree.

So the usual way to do this is to e-mail (or post here) the other guy with your preferred settings. Doesn’t have to be more than: How bout: Tesco map, 3 Good planets, No Intel and No Ancient?
When you have agreed, send the info to Asmala. Nothing to it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

LonghornXtreme
June 18th, 2004, 09:36 AM
Thanks for the in depth reply Primitive. This community never ceases to amaze me.

primitive
June 18th, 2004, 10:30 AM
Nah, Pure self interest. Always good with some fresh meat in the league.
Don’t think I have had the chance to let the Primitive Hordes loose on some Texan yet http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Asmala
June 18th, 2004, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Hi Asmala.
Can you take me off the Hill because my free time has just crashed to almost nothing. I should be able to handle the games I'm in, but no others.
Sorry.
Baron Grazic <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Done.

Asmala
June 18th, 2004, 10:36 AM
If you read carefully default Koth settings can be found on Koth league rules page:

The default game settings for K.O.T.H. League games will be small spiral arm cluster, no A.I. or neutral players, no ruins, no events, 20000 ships, 20000 units, and everything else will be the default SEIV game settings.

Slynky
June 18th, 2004, 02:28 PM
Mark the Merciful (Kif Hegemony) vs Slynky (Trithian Empire) - 2408.1

Twice I've met Mark and twice he hasn't lived up to his name (Merciful http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ).

Looks like I'll stay on the bottom for another round (at least).

A combination of an my lack of skill and Mark's ever-changing tactics have produced (I suspect) the first-ever win for a person taking the Religious trait (with one starting planet and starting beside the opponent).


Congrats on pulling a win from a dismal start, Mark http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif .

[ June 18, 2004, 13:31: Message edited by: Slynky ]

Iansidious
June 18th, 2004, 04:25 PM
I have bowed to the GozGuy empire.

Asmala set me up for another one. Please.

Asmala
June 18th, 2004, 10:06 PM
Koth page is updated.

Slynky
June 18th, 2004, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Asmala:
Koth page is updated. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks, Asmala!

Renegade 13
June 19th, 2004, 01:25 AM
Hey Asmala, has Dav gotten back to you yet?? I was wondering...its been about 20 days now, with no turns...what should be done now??

Slynky
June 19th, 2004, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by Renegade 13:
Hey Asmala, has Dav gotten back to you yet?? I was wondering...its been about 20 days now, with no turns...what should be done now?? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Seems to me it's time to boot Dav.

Grandpa Kim
June 20th, 2004, 07:05 PM
Grandpa Kim vs. Electrum turn 10

Well, no news is good news. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fairly good start for me. Only 26 systems if I counted right, so this may be a fairly quick game. No contact yet but I'll be surprised if we don't meet before turn 20.

Hmm, doesn't leave much room for a pre-arranged excuse for losing. LOL

Asmala
June 20th, 2004, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Renegade 13:
Hey Asmala, has Dav gotten back to you yet?? I was wondering...its been about 20 days now, with no turns...what should be done now?? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not yet. I sent a new message today. If he doesn't reply pretty soon I'll declare you the winner and kick him out of the hill.

Renegade 13
June 22nd, 2004, 06:08 AM
Well i din't want to win my first game that way, but...if there's no choice, i guess there's no choice.

Asmala
June 25th, 2004, 01:03 AM
I'll be away till Monday. Renegade 13, if Dav hasn't replied to my Messages when I'm back I'll declare you the winner.

LonghornXtreme
June 26th, 2004, 10:02 PM
Well the Forgotten Dragon Empire led by Zhakartas just surrendered to the Republic of Texas led by LonghornXtreme...

He ran into my home system around turn 6 or 7 with two colonizers... He had 2 large breathables in my home system but fortunately I was able to emergency build a 3 ship fleet and glass both... I did lose 2 of my breathables as well but I managed to blockade his homeworld and I'm assuming resource starvation screwed him...

Mark me down as 1-0 in KOTH !

Renegade 13
June 28th, 2004, 10:34 PM
Well it's Monday now...has Dav gotten back to you Asmala?? Sorry to be bothering you so much about this, I'm just anxious to get back into KOTH games. After all, its been nearly a month http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif . Thanks a lot for all the help you've given me here.

Asmala
June 29th, 2004, 11:23 AM
I haven't got a reply from Dav so I removed him from the Hill.

Koth page is updated.

Slynky
June 29th, 2004, 04:06 PM
Zharktas:

How about 3 GOOD starting planets on Geo's Balance Mod (doesn't require anything special for us to use)? It makes everything pretty much equal throughout the map (just remember there are no moons and NO NONE atmosphere planets).

Renegade 13
June 29th, 2004, 06:51 PM
LonghornXtreme:

What do you think about 1 Good planet start, and No Intel. Other than that normal KOTH settings??

Zharktas
June 29th, 2004, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Slynky:
Zharktas:

How about 3 GOOD starting planets on Geo's Balance Mod (doesn't require anything special for us to use)? It makes everything pretty much equal throughout the map (just remember there are no moons and NO NONE atmosphere planets). <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's fine with me, but take it easy with me, I'm totally newbie; newer won a single game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Slynky
June 29th, 2004, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Zharktas:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Slynky:
Zharktas:

How about 3 GOOD starting planets on Geo's Balance Mod (doesn't require anything special for us to use)? It makes everything pretty much equal throughout the map (just remember there are no moons and NO NONE atmosphere planets). <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's fine with me, but take it easy with me, I'm totally newbie; newer won a single game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Then standard KOTH settings except for these changes:

3 Good planets
Geo Balance Mod (and remember to not choose None as an atmosphere type).

As to your ability, I thought Finland produced nothing but fine SE4 players http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

LonghornXtreme
June 29th, 2004, 11:48 PM
That sounds just fine Renegade! I'll go upload my empire right now...

Looking forward to the match... I'll let ya know that I can usually do a BUNCH of turns each day if you're up to it... but I won't be offended in the least bit if you take your time! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Renegade 13
June 30th, 2004, 02:08 AM
Now that I don't have school, I should be able to make lots of turns per day...so its great if you can do the same. I love a fast turn-around. I'll email Asmala our settings, and upload my empire file tonight.

spoon
July 1st, 2004, 12:04 AM
Hey Asmala --

I'm finding I don't have enough time these days to do my turns for our game (and don't see things getting better any time soon), so I am going to have to withdraw from our king match. I realize how lame this is -- please forgive me! Definitely a fun game we had going - very humbling and tense!

Good luck with keeping your crown next match - you deserve it!

primitive
July 1st, 2004, 02:28 PM
Tough break Spoon. Having to forfeit due to stupid RL sucks bad.

Primitive flexes his muscles, stiff from sitting still at the top of the hill for so long.
Has the long wait made his already dull mind even duller, or has one of the stranger deities of the universe planted some new tricks on him ? Guess we'll find out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Asmala:
Some form of balanced map ?
I also prefer the No Ancient rule. Else I’m game for most settings,

Asmala
July 1st, 2004, 08:39 PM
I'm fine with Geo's balanced map and no ancient rule. I don't have time to update Koth now since I'm leaving in a few minutes. I'll be back on Monday so we can start then.

Slynky
July 4th, 2004, 05:07 PM
First...I don't want to put either you (Asmala) or you (Primitive) on the spot but since no one has commented on staging the game, I offer my services. Setting up the KOTH game is about as close as I get to that throne, anyway http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

I hope, by now, that everyone knows I don't play any favoritism and that I do my best to set players in a balanced starting position. Since it appears the Balance Mod of Geo's will be used, only thing I would need to do is balance the starting positions. This means giving a bit of room to both players but NEVER so much that either can think the entire map will separate them. Also, depending on the map, I may even start both players on the same side (if there is enough space) and let them have to explore to determine if the opponent is on the opposite side of the map or on the top (or bottom) of the same side of the map. I try to look for an interesting map with a few choke points but also other ways to move around for possible flanking opportunities. And a few weird links that might fool the players.

If interested, let me know.

Slynky
July 4th, 2004, 05:18 PM
Asmala/Spoon:

The Ratings System provides for the opportunity for a player to leave a game without penalty of loss if there are outside problems that prevent a player from completing the game. It is up to the remaining player(s) to accept that excuse to withdraw. I don't want to post any results until I am sure of what you guys agree upon. The way I see it, Spoon may take a look at his game and say, "Asmala would probably have won anyway...so he deserves the win." Or Asmala may say, "The game was too close to call and I believe Spoon left the game for RL reasons."

Please advise me of the game status for Ratings purposes.

primitive
July 4th, 2004, 05:40 PM
You hosting it would be great, Slynky. Thanx